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    You were using Corona to criticise Trump and Jeff is putting an opposite opinion. Don't see why you would put him on ignore. Always worth seeing both sides of the picture.

    You know as well as I do that Trump is not a Roman emperor ruling in a vacuum and by his own whim. He doesn't even have control of Congress! None of the major nations have handled this especially well with the exception of South Korea. And they learned their lesson because they were hit by SARS. Added to which they have a more authoritarian society and a more 'obedient' social code which makes it a lot easier to implement lockdowns and mobilise resources.

    You don't like Trump, I get that, but I don't think using this crisis as a stick to beat him with serves any real purpose. It's big, it's out of any one man's control.

    When this is over he will undoubtedly get another term and will no doubt do plenty of things that you can justifiably rail at then when there's nothing more serious going on.
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    Not my take on what I either said or am hearing Martin.

    I think Goramans a trolling arsehole, that's why I put him on Ignore.
    Free to do so, as is anyone here.

    Anyway,
    Back to the telly for me, too serious a subject to be silly about, so filing this one under Agree to Disagree and dropping out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    You were using Corona to criticise Trump and Jeff is putting an opposite opinion. Don't see why you would put him on ignore. Always worth seeing both sides of the picture.

    You know as well as I do that Trump is not a Roman emperor ruling in a vacuum and by his own whim. He doesn't even have control of Congress! None of the major nations have handled this especially well with the exception of South Korea. And they learned their lesson because they were hit by SARS. Added to which they have a more authoritarian society and a more 'obedient' social code which makes it a lot easier to implement lockdowns and mobilise resources.

    You don't like Trump, I get that, but I don't think using this crisis as a stick to beat him with serves any real purpose. It's big, it's out of any one man's control.

    When this is over he will undoubtedly get another term and will no doubt do plenty of things that you can justifiably rail at then when there's nothing more serious going on.
    Thank you Martin for having my back on this,
    I am hardly trying to troll anyone, I want to be up front about this,I supported Trump s run for president ,both donated to his campaign and voted for him along with most of America and if you eliminated the illegal alien vote he won by a mile and a half. California has more illegal voters alone than Ireland has people. Obama placed very powerful leftest in key positions in the, IRS , CIA ,FBI and packed the courts extreme leftists .
    The globalists are well funded by George Soros ,the Koke brothers ,Bill Gates, ect... There goal is to destroy America and a free market economy and to set them selves up as a ruling class and the rest of the world too.
    Think about it Obama used the CIA and FBI to spy on the Trump team from candidate to president, Hillery has broken every law there is and remains free with a trail of bodies every where she goes.
    If someone is any threat to exposing the DNC they suddenly end up dead from a random shooting or commit suicide with a gun that doesn't work!
    Trump has been attacked every single day since before even taking office,every US law has been broken by the opposition party yet nothing happens.
    I am just tired of attacks on our president and if that is a Troll then I am a pissed off troll, We elected Trump because we are sick of political elites, political correctness , The only thing that could have been better is if he had picked Jeremy Clarkson as his running mate !
    We want to break up the elitists that has infected every aspect of our lives, it was getting unbearable here before Trump 1% growth no jobs it was like England in the 70's it sucked and things where looking pretty good here till this stupid Chinese virus stopped the world from turning, and my only wish is everyone makes it through this (knowing full well some wont but praying non the less!) and that the world can some how become a become a better place after its over. The world needs to put pressure on countries like China to clean up there crap and treat there people better! The world dose better with out micro management from world elites. The world is made up of communities with different needs governing them selves. Local laws,local governments are far better than some Ass in Brussels telling the world how to live while they them selves don't live the same way.
    Sorry to all for having a rant but Trump did not create this problem and has done his best to stop it , If you are pissed be pissed at China!
    God Bless everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goraman View Post
    Thank you Martin for having my back on this,
    I am hardly trying to troll anyone, I want to be up front about this,I supported Trump s run for president ,both donated to his campaign and voted for him along with most of America and if you eliminated the illegal alien vote he won by a mile and a half. California has more illegal voters alone than Ireland has people. Obama placed very powerful leftest in key positions in the, IRS , CIA ,FBI and packed the courts extreme leftists .
    The globalists are well funded by George Soros ,the Koke brothers ,Bill Gates, ect... There goal is to destroy America and a free market economy and to set them selves up as a ruling class and the rest of the world too.
    Think about it Obama used the CIA and FBI to spy on the Trump team from candidate to president, Hillery has broken every law there is and remains free with a trail of bodies every where she goes.
    If someone is any threat to exposing the DNC they suddenly end up dead from a random shooting or commit suicide with a gun that doesn't work!
    Trump has been attacked every single day since before even taking office,every US law has been broken by the opposition party yet nothing happens.
    I am just tired of attacks on our president and if that is a Troll then I am a pissed off troll, We elected Trump because we are sick of political elites, political correctness , The only thing that could have been better is if he had picked Jeremy Clarkson as his running mate !
    We want to break up the elitists that has infected every aspect of our lives, it was getting unbearable here before Trump 1% growth no jobs it was like England in the 70's it sucked and things where looking pretty good here till this stupid Chinese virus stopped the world from turning, and my only wish is everyone makes it through this (knowing full well some wont but praying non the less!) and that the world can some how become a become a better place after its over. The world needs to put pressure on countries like China to clean up there crap and treat there people better! The world dose better with out micro management from world elites. The world is made up of communities with different needs governing them selves. Local laws,local governments are far better than some Ass in Brussels telling the world how to live while they them selves don't live the same way.
    Sorry to all for having a rant but Trump did not create this problem and has done his best to stop it , If you are pissed be pissed at China!
    God Bless everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goraman View Post
    Thank you Martin for having my back on this,
    I am hardly trying to troll anyone, I want to be up front about this,I supported Trump s run for president ,both donated to his campaign and voted for him along with most of America and if you eliminated the illegal alien vote he won by a mile and a half. California has more illegal voters alone than Ireland has people. Obama placed very powerful leftest in key positions in the, IRS , CIA ,FBI and packed the courts extreme leftists .
    The globalists are well funded by George Soros ,the Koke brothers ,Bill Gates, ect... There goal is to destroy America and a free market economy and to set them selves up as a ruling class and the rest of the world too.
    Think about it Obama used the CIA and FBI to spy on the Trump team from candidate to president, Hillery has broken every law there is and remains free with a trail of bodies every where she goes.
    If someone is any threat to exposing the DNC they suddenly end up dead from a random shooting or commit suicide with a gun that doesn't work!
    Trump has been attacked every single day since before even taking office,every US law has been broken by the opposition party yet nothing happens.
    I am just tired of attacks on our president and if that is a Troll then I am a pissed off troll, We elected Trump because we are sick of political elites, political correctness , The only thing that could have been better is if he had picked Jeremy Clarkson as his running mate !
    We want to break up the elitists that has infected every aspect of our lives, it was getting unbearable here before Trump 1% growth no jobs it was like England in the 70's it sucked and things where looking pretty good here till this stupid Chinese virus stopped the world from turning, and my only wish is everyone makes it through this (knowing full well some wont but praying non the less!) and that the world can some how become a become a better place after its over. The world needs to put pressure on countries like China to clean up there crap and treat there people better! The world dose better with out micro management from world elites. The world is made up of communities with different needs governing them selves. Local laws,local governments are far better than some Ass in Brussels telling the world how to live while they them selves don't live the same way.
    Sorry to all for having a rant but Trump did not create this problem and has done his best to stop it , If you are pissed be pissed at China!
    God Bless everyone.
    There is nothing to gain for Americans, let alone anyone else believing anything, said by a person with narcissistic personality disorder.
    Rather all you can expect is Lack of empathy, display of temper and combinations of the traits I listed before:

    Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people
    Continually demeaning, bullying and belittling others
    Exploiting others to achieve personal gain
    Lack of empathy for the negative impact they have on the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people
    Fixation on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
    Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions
    Need for continual admiration from others
    Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
    Intense envy of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them

    The issue though is Goraman trying to convince us Trump is there for the American people, whilst pushing and celebrating his belief in Republican agenda.

    Lets examine the current crises, to discover a lack of empathy, and grandstanding in line with usual narcissistic traits, by Trump

    Here Joe Biden says the number one thing presently is misinformation and calls for Americans to listen to the scientists
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/joe-...ry?id=69748296

    and here Trump, "its like a miracle, one day it will disappear" https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/tr...e-coronavirus/
    https://youtu.be/17ne6-ypj_4

    Plainly Trump is way out of his depth as he has no scientific background, but proceeds merrily along using the media to do nothing
    useful to educate or protect Americans , but instead uses the opportunity to seek admiration from others.

    A President with no empathy for anyone is a very dangerous recipe at any time, but particularly in times of crises.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ses-in-us.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    There is nothing to gain for Americans, let alone anyone else believing anything, said by a person with narcissistic personality disorder.
    Rather all you can expect is Lack of empathy, display of temper and combinations of the traits I listed before:

    Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people
    Continually demeaning, bullying and belittling others
    Exploiting others to achieve personal gain
    Lack of empathy for the negative impact they have on the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people
    Fixation on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
    Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions
    Need for continual admiration from others
    Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
    Intense envy of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them

    The issue though is Goraman trying to convince us Trump is there for the American people, whilst pushing and celebrating his belief in Republican agenda.

    Lets examine the current crises, to discover a lack of empathy, and grandstanding in line with usual narcissistic traits, by Trump

    Here Joe Biden says the number one thing presently is misinformation and calls for Americans to listen to the scientists
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/joe-...ry?id=69748296

    and here Trump, "its like a miracle, one day it will disappear" https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/tr...e-coronavirus/
    https://youtu.be/17ne6-ypj_4

    Plainly Trump is way out of his depth as he has no scientific background, but proceeds merrily along using the media to do nothing
    useful to educate or protect Americans , but instead uses the opportunity to seek admiration from others.

    A President with no empathy for anyone is a very dangerous recipe at any time, but particularly in times of crises.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ses-in-us.html
    Even the best psychiatrist would not dream of diagnosing someone they have never met but you are somehow able to do this Chris.
    Yet you are using Joe Biden who has made a living fleecing selling government influence and using his power to bully other countries as an example of leadership? Your own BBC on Biden corruption.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXAxzddS4o and he has this going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiJ0Sw9d7Yc and it gets even worse from a Anti Trump guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvOjlfRpXHQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H5NJZMDumY I could go on . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4VH2JjWDnk
    And this is who you support to replace Trump?

    I could take all of these comments apart one by one but most people have already made up there mind,some have made their minds up through a fog of Trump derangement syndrome.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8xEw2gjEVk




    Oh, and BTW : Jeffrey Ebstine didn't kill himself.
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    Hi Jeff
    No, there are many who have analyzed him and placed it in print. https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Cas.../dp/1250212863
    would you like me to buy you the book ?

    and here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ality-disorder

    An impairment of function, allowing that anyone can adjust their outlook, can usually be treated easily. This is the kindest thing to do
    as there is nothing worse than anyone dying, still as a narcissist. It is an entire life wasted trying to to find a personality, and highly annoying others
    in the process.

    Sadly though unless he seeks treatment himself, little is likely to change - particularly now he has entire media outlets ( Fox ) in tune, with promoting the same disorder and his viewpoints to those
    silly enough to watch that channel. Turn it off Jeff !!

    However there is hope by undoing all the attention he needs, on November 3rd 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    Hi Jeff
    No, there are many who have analyzed him and placed it in print. https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Cas.../dp/1250212863
    would you like me to buy you the book ?

    and here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ality-disorder

    An impairment of function, allowing that anyone can adjust their outlook, can usually be treated easily. This is the kindest thing to do
    as there is nothing worse than anyone dying, still as a narcissist. It is an entire life wasted trying to to find a personality, and highly annoying others
    in the process.

    Sadly though unless he seeks treatment himself, little is likely to change - particularly now he has entire media outlets ( Fox ) in tune, with promoting the same disorder and his viewpoints to those
    silly enough to watch that channel. Turn it off Jeff !!

    However there is hope by undoing all the attention he needs, on November 3rd 2020
    Undoing it Nov. 3rd 2020 with a guy who cant remember his own name,constantly touches little girls and sniffs them and used U.S. tax dollars to Black mail Ukraine or worse a Devout Communist who's every quote comes right from the mouth of Fidel Castro?
    Brilliant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post

    However there is hope by undoing all the attention he needs, on November 3rd 2020
    And it isn't going to happen when the only counter-arguments presented are cod psychology and schoolyard insults driven by a burning sense of self-righteousness. As that bloke said in one of the videos Jeff posted the other day, it's not political discourse, it's the world's dumbest religion. Trump is president because too many people found the alternative to be far more unpalatable. The same can be said for Brexit and Boris Johnson/conservative government in the UK. Why is that? 'The media'? No. Find a better answer. If you don't then you are just going to have to get used to it because it won't be changing anytime soon.
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    CHINA IS NOW ACTING AS IF THEY ARE HELPING THE WORLD .Truth is they are selling billions of defective test kits,N95 masks and respirators Spain bought nearly 500 million dollars worth of defective junk.
    Create a virus loose it on the world ,get rich and claim you are helping the world. THATS CHINA.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...viruses-near-/
    HAVE A CHINESE FRUIT BAT SANDWICH WITH THAT CUP A TEA.
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