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Thread: Johns Hopkins Medical Centre - World Coronavirus infection Map by Country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre De Grenoble View Post
    I'm sure I read today that North Wales is now a "hot spot" spike. Wales in a % per 100, 000 is second in the entire UK for infections I don't give one for conspiracy theories, I'll just hold my arm out and say Spike me Bro... Spike me..
    Yes, apparently because North Wales hasn't yet had its peak of the virus, so that's the reason for the 'hot-spot' spike, although I can see little real-world evidence of such within our social circles or local community. Instead, hardly anyone we know has had the virus, and no-one we know has suffered from a severe reaction to it, least of all died - and the same applies to those who the people we know, know, etc...

    As an aside, here's a thing... Out of the entire membership of AoS, or even just the regulars, who do we know who's suffered seriously from Covid-19, or died from it? No-one I know of... What about on the other main forums, pfm or the WAM? And that for me, even using that small sample of the population as an example, casts question marks on how serious the situation with this virus *actually is* for the overwhelmingly vast majority of us.

    I guess that's largely because they/we don't fit the demographic of those who are most at risk from it, but I still think that there is a distinct tendency for the government to paint a falsely alarming picture of the situation. It's worrying, yes, *if* you're old and/or have an underlying serious health condition, but otherwise, for the vast majority of the population, IMO, no. For us, it's a case of taking sensible precautions, but panicking or worrying about catching a 'fatal virus', to the extent that it rules our lives and prevents us from functioning normally, within the current restrictions or otherwise, definitely NOT.

    Also, in terms of the % per 100k figure, for Wales as a whole, do remember that that figure is significantly influenced by the large number of cases reported in vastly more heavily populated South Wales, particularly around major cities, such as Cardiff, Swansea and Newport, and which accordingly has grossly inflated the overall figure for Wales.

    There are no major cities in North Wales (most of the area is rural), with Wrexham by far having the largest population (as both a town and county), and with currently only 565 reported deaths, out of a total population of 136,000.

    In terms of being "spiked", carry on if you wish, and the best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    That does indeed seem a sensible, balanced summary. It's clear that there's no real consensus about the risk of a second wave, but 'safety first' would seem the best way to proceed. As far as a vaccine is concerned, even the most optimistic scenario suggests that testing would not be completed until late September, after which it would take several months to ramp up production. The jabs would be given firstly to those most at risk (healthcare workers, the elderly, and those with underlying health conditions). Mass vaccination may never be needed if it emerges that the vast majority of young, healthy people suffer only minor symptoms or are asymptomatic. For them, herd immunity might be appropriate.

    There's a danger that the virus will mutate into an even more deadly strain that has serious effects even for younger healthy people, so the more testing and tracing the better.
    ...or there is a distinct drive by the government to have it done, regardless, for the reasons I've previously outlined. Then you'd get the biggest indication yet that there's something, to put it mildly, 'slightly fishy' going on!

    That said, we're entirely in agreement, and thanks for the link

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    Robert Jenrick, the housing minister says he is committed to enforcing the 14 day quarantine for arrivals into the UK.

    Hold on..........He's the HOUSING MINISTER! What the heck has he got to do with the health and security of the nation? And anyway, isn't he the guy who broke the lockdown to visit his parents? That got smartly swept under the carpet!!
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    It's Priti Patel's policy, as Home Secretary, but it looks like it's unlikely to be a policy much longer, as the Daily Fail and other tabloids are obsessing about people not being able to have a summer holiday unless the rules are changed:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-52900346

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    Just reinforces the reason why i never buy, or read newspapers!
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    It's Priti Patel's policy, as Home Secretary, but it looks like it's unlikely to be a policy much longer, as the Daily Fail and other tabloids are obsessing about people not being able to have a summer holiday unless the rules are changed:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-52900346
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    It's Priti Patel's policy, as Home Secretary, but it looks like it's unlikely to be a policy much longer, as the Daily Fail and other tabloids are obsessing about people not being able to have a summer holiday unless the rules are changed:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-52900346
    I wouldn't go near a bloody airport just now if you PAID me - for ALL sorts of valid reasons!! Utter madness....

    *If* we go on holiday anywhere this year, it'll be by car, somewhere in the UK, which is peaceful, quiet, and above all RELAXING and NON-STRESSFUL - WELL AWAY from or any crowds or chaos!!!



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    should be safe from an influx of holiday loonies up here.. its mostly too cold for them, so im guessing they will trip off to margate etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    should be safe from an influx of holiday loonies up here.. its mostly too cold for them, so im guessing they will trip off to margate etc
    Even the midges are staying down South (well, Midlands):

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...eporting-story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    It's Priti Patel's policy, as Home Secretary, but it looks like it's unlikely to be a policy much longer, as the Daily Fail and other tabloids are obsessing about people not being able to have a summer holiday unless the rules are changed:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-52900346
    I wonder if they will spread all their shyte over the beaches of Portugal/Greece ?
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    Has a large queue at the local McDonald's. Causing Rd jams etc.. Total clowns.
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