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    Quote Originally Posted by guy View Post
    I'm pretty sure that you are right (or just because the use of a mask allows access to shops etc), still gives me a positive impression though
    Funny that, I just think 'SHEEP'!

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    I think that one wearing a mask not only show respect for others due to the current situation
    I is my freedom of choice to wear one and a big finger up to a government that sold you freedom day so that they can take the 6 weeks holiday and do as they please whit all the perks that the job entitle (private jets to disclosed locations mostly multi millionare party donors private villas and police escorts)

    How many unnecessary deaths today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bksabath View Post
    a big finger up to a government that sold you freedom day so that they can take the 6 weeks holiday and do as they please whit all the perks that the job entitle (private jets to disclosed locations mostly multi millionare party donors private villas and police escorts)
    You're forgetting the groups of dancing girls, firing out ping-pong balls from their 'front ends'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post

    So may I ask what your overriding opinion is of someone not wearing a mask in a shop? Be honest, and if it's not caring, then you will understand the point I've made above

    Marco.
    My opinion, when it was an expectation to wear one, was "arseholes" and quite naturally I kept my distance - bearing in mind that I am well aware of exemptions to people wearing a mask, my future son in law has an exemption so I understand that there are people who just can't comply as opposed to those who won't

    To put this in context, those who were not wearing masks were most likely (about 90% of the time in my experience) to be shopping as a family group (kids running up and down the aisles) and ignoring any idea of social distancing - even to the extent of pushing in to me while I was waiting in the checkout queue, so that they could reach the 2 litre bottles of fizzy drink about a minute quicker

    Some people just don't give a shit.

    Any thoughts on this?:

    We live in a "democracy" (separate thread needed for that one ). The majority of the population have now agreed that having a vaccination is the right thing to do - one has to assume that was their free choice.
    If it then becomes a requirement to be vaccinated in order to take a flight, go to a concert or whatever then that is part and parcel of living in a "democracy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by guy View Post
    My opinion, when it was an expectation to wear one, was "arseholes" and quite naturally I kept my distance - bearing in mind that I am well aware of exemptions to people wearing a mask, my future son in law has an exemption so I understand that there are people who just can't comply as opposed to those who won't
    That's cool (hope your future son-in-law is ok, btw). When it's mandatory (still is here) to wear a mask in shops, I will wear one, although I don't think the basic ones are particularly effective. However, on balance it's the right thing to do, as aside from anything else, not doing so would simply attract a whole load of grief!

    However, I struggle with the word 'comply', as it's authoritarian connotations clash badly with my strong sense of civil liberty, so I try to 'comply' with as little as possible, unless *I* consider it's the right thing to do, someone asks me nicely, or I'm forced to by law.

    I'm simply not someone who's naturally predisposed to bowing to authority. If it's necessary, I'll always challenge or question rules, rather than simply obeying them. That for me is the sign of a free thinker and someone with their own mind, as opposed to a subservient sheep. In my view, there are too many sheep [folk who too readily acquiesce to authority] in today's world, and it acts as a threat to our freedoms.

    So, returning to the matter in hand....If you appreciate your son-in-law as having a legitimate exemption from wearing a mask in shops, then when you see others there not wearing masks, how are you able to separate the "arseholes" from people like your future son-in-law?

    Moreover, and which was really the question I asked you in the first place, when it's no longer the requirement to wear masks in shops, as it is now where you live, what is your opinion of non-mask wearers, in terms of your perceived status of them as 'caring people'?

    However, before answering that, allow me briefly to return to my previous question above, in reference to the definition of 'caring people'... How can you differentiate between non-mask wearers, such as your future son-in-law, and thousands of others like him who equally have the right not to wear one, in terms of them being a 'caring person' or not?

    Do you see my point? You simply can't form that opinion, as unlike your future son-in-law, you don't know them or their reasons for not wearing a mask, and therefore to automatically label them as 'uncaring', or wrong, would be discriminatory.

    We need to rid ourselves of the bad habit of unfairly judging others, simply because what they're doing is not what we consider is 'correct', and learn to RESPECT their alternative choice (if it's legal), even if we disagree with it.

    To put this in context, those who were not wearing masks were most likely (about 90% of the time in my experience) to be shopping as a family group (kids running up and down the aisles) and ignoring any idea of social distancing - even to the extent of pushing in to me while I was waiting in the checkout queue, so that they could reach the 2 litre bottles of fizzy drink about a minute quicker

    Some people just don't give a shit.
    That's just sheer ignorance and bad manners, but those types of people existed long before this pandemic and the requirement for wearing face masks in shops, and they'll also continue to exist long after it.

    Any thoughts on this?:

    We live in a "democracy" (separate thread needed for that one ). The majority of the population have now agreed that having a vaccination is the right thing to do - one has to assume that was their free choice.
    If it then becomes a requirement to be vaccinated in order to take a flight, go to a concert or whatever then that is part and parcel of living in a "democracy".
    Well, it's an entirely different thing for the majority of the population to exercise their free choice to be vaccinated, and the authorities in question then taking a decision to ban others from engaging in some of the activities you mention, and subsequently penalising them for their free choice.

    Just because the majority of the population wanted to be vaccinated, doesn't mean that it's right for authorities to subsequently create rules that discriminate against the rest. Otherwise, what was the point in making the vaccine non-mandatory, if choosing not to be vaccinated only results in being penalised later for exercising that free choice?

    That's hardly fair, is it? When vaccines became available, I don't remember the government saying: 'Oh and by the way, if you refuse to be vaccinated, we'll make your life as difficult as possible later, by exempting you from doing things others can, in order to force you to change your mind'... I'm referring to the introduction of 'Covid ID passes', which I believe will now be required to gain entry to large public events and nightclubs.

    That's purely and simply coercion, and therefore incompatible with a democracy, supposedly promoting free choice. END OF!

    However, international travel is a different matter, and there are valid reasons for controlling people's movements and imposing restrictions in that area, but not outside of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bksabath View Post
    I may even be sympathetic to "gain of function research" being carried out in order to advance understanding
    Why this understanding was not used from the 19th of November when 3 Wuhan lab researcers ended up in hospital whit a mysterious virus?
    Why the secret services did not report the communication black out around the Lab?
    Why such research is illegal in other countries?
    Why known concerns about the sloppy safety protocols of the Wuhan lab did not preclude any further founding or where ignored and kept on going?
    I would appreciate a citation on that claim, Sandro, to investigate further.

    Doctor Fauci is clearly fire-fighting here, but it may not imply a lab leak, as likely that he off-shored "Gain of Function" research that may be illegal in the US.

    Doctor Mike Yeadon and Del Bigtree:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/oSwtUedmK9QB/

    A long watch. Both fit the classic category of Conspiracy Theorists. Narcissists with too much time on their hands. A red flag. Another red flag was both of them endlessly touching their face.

    Some points well made.

    Vaccines are largely untested in long term.
    Potentially dangerous to pregnant women particularly.
    Vaccines and prior exposure will give some immunity to variants.
    Risk of blood clots from vaccines.
    Asymptomatic people are less infectious than symptomatic. He quoted 1% versus 18% to a single householder. I make that a group above 6 will have a serious outbreak.
    We have a natural alertness to illness and avoid it. An interesting point, you can always spot someone with a cold.
    Covid is a disease of institutions like schools, hospitals.
    Polyethylene Glycol in mRNA vaccines can produce allergic reaction.
    Covid Passports are open to abuse as Identity cards by an unscrupulous Government.

    Points I found dubious.

    Covid is no more dangerous than 'Flu.
    Facemasks and hand-washing are ineffective.
    We have good treatments for Covid like Chloroquine and Ivormectin.
    We have evolved to be highly resistant to all germs, or we would starve to death if ill.
    Lockdowns are ineffective.

    There's a wise saying: "Never ascribe to malice that which is more easily explained by incompetence."
    This whole thing is a trip into the unknown for most everybody.

    Any queries about the points I found dubious, I will elaborate my misgivings.

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    Morning Marco'


    "However, before answering that, allow me briefly to return to my previous question above, in reference to the definition of 'caring people'... How can you differentiate between non-mask wearers, such as your future son-in-law, and thousands of others like him who equally have the right not to wear one, in terms of them being a 'caring person' or not?

    Do you see my point? You simply can't form that opinion, as unlike your future son-in-law, you don't know them or their reasons for not wearing a mask, and therefore to automatically label them as 'uncaring', or wrong, would be discriminatory.

    We need to rid ourselves of the bad habit of unfairly judging others, simply because what they're doing is not what we consider as 'correct', and learn to RESPECT their choice (if it's legal), even if we disagree with it.
    "

    As I said I don't think of the phrase "caring people" as meaning the same as someone who "cares about my health"

    Adolf Hitler was a "caring person" in his relationship with "Blondi" and in his vegetarianism, but just look at the rest of his character.

    I would not judge a person based on just whether or not they wore a mask, BUT in the cases where I have thought "arsehole" and tried to keep my distance, my judgement has been based on several aspects of their presentation on that occasion - no mask/ entering supermarket separately when signs indicated no family groups, only to join together once in the shop, then having no inclination to control their children/combined with a complete lack of regard for social distancing etc.

    I admit that it is wrong of me to judge by demeanour and dress, but that also plays a part in my assessment - everyone does this, it is part of human survival mechanism relying on making threat assessment all the way through to judging suitability of a mate

    "That's hardly fair, is it? When vaccines became available, I don't remember the government saying: 'Oh and by the way, if you refuse to be vaccinated, we'll make your life as difficult as possible later, by exempting you from doing things others can, in order to force you to change your mind'..."

    You are absolutely right about the above.
    However, given what you have said about Boris and co previously, do you really expect them to have come up with a coherent, consistent and sustained "game plan" from the start
    Although, to be fair, I don't think that any government (bar North Korea perhaps? ) have kept to one stance on this pandemic.

    "However, international travel is a different matter, and there are valid reasons for controlling people's movements and imposing restrictions in that area, but not outside of that."

    This one I struggle with. I desperately want a week away with Fliss, I have not had a swim in a warm clean sea for over two years now, or walked around somewhere different with her. But I am really not keen on the idea of sitting in a plane for several hours breathing recirculated air doesn't appeal.
    To then hear about "celebrities" avoiding essential travel rules, or people traveling to Pakistan to attend family funerals and then whining about having to isolate on their return really winds me up.

    lots of other things that are on my mind/pissing me off - but Fliss wants me to clear a room so that she can convert it to a sewing/craft room, so duty calls
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    Quote Originally Posted by system7 View Post
    I would appreciate a citation on that claim, Sandro, to investigate further.
    Yes, and before you do that, I would 'appreciate', i.e. want answer to the following (from earlier)...

    Quote Originally Posted by systen7
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y7cb

    An irritating conspiracy theorist on air at 2m20, ****rattling on about freedom and liberty****, if you want to raise your blood pressure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marco
    The only thing raising my blood pressure is you glibly dismissing the importance of freedom and liberty!!

    So that's not important at all to you? And I *want* an answer to that, so you'll be repeatedly asked until I get one...


    Well, I'm waiting... Ignoring me, Steve, is NOT an opinion. When I say something, I mean it!

    The reason I'm pressing you on this matter is because, as I feel VERY strongly indeed about the importance of freedom and liberty, I'm not sure that I'm comfortable sharing the company of someone here who *seemingly* has little regard for the two things (along with good health) that matter more than anything else in life, and are the cornerstone of a democracy, and therefore is *seemingly* only too happy to trivialise or dismiss them.

    What would you rather instead, a dictatorship??

    Therefore, I await your clarification of the above at your earliest convenience. Please do not post further on this thread until you have responded to this.

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    Morning, Guy. Thanks for your considered response to my earlier post. I'll get to it shortly

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    Hi Marco,

    Sorry to be THAT Guy here but,


    Is it possible your own (obviously strong) thoughts on "personal liberty" are clouding your judgement in the discussion on other related matters here?

    A "Free Society" also means that people are entitled to disagree with others, and are entitled to their own opinion and views.
    Outside of concrete facts (With all things Covid, lots of opposing opinions, ignored science and in there somewhere actual Data)

    Two things:
    1: You've told a Forum member that unless they answer your questions they will not be allowed to post again on this thread and that:

    2: "I'm not sure that I'm comfortable sharing the company of someone here who *seemingly* has little regard for the two things, along with good health, which matter more than anything else in life and are the cornerstone of a free society, and therefore is *seemingly* only too happy to trivialise or dismiss them."

    Just to hold up a mirror, your (or anyone else's) values might not be HIS values, He might have a different view or yardstick as to what a cornerstone of a Free Society is?

    Sure these folks can speak up for themselves, but I've always found AOS to be a "broad church" as to views and opinions, and that's a good thing.
    Subtle "flexing" or loaded language from anyone (Moderator/Owner or not ) doesn't always make for a pleasant read.

    Of course you could just be being Trolled,
    it can be too easy to take the bait with some folk.


    Just one Mans opinion Gaffer.
    No feelings were hurt during the making of this post.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, and before you do that, I would 'appreciate', i.e. want answer to the following (from earlier)...










    Well, I'm waiting... Ignoring me, Steve, is NOT an opinion. When I say something, I mean it!

    The reason I'm pressing you on this matter is because, as I feel VERY strongly indeed about the importance of freedom and liberty, I'm not sure that I'm comfortable sharing the company of someone here who *seemingly* has little regard for the two things, along with good health, which matter more than anything else in life, and are the cornerstone of a free society, and therefore is *seemingly* only too happy to trivialise or dismiss them.

    What would you rather instead, a dictatorship??

    Therefore, I await your clarification of the above at your earliest convenience. Please do not post further on this thread until you have responded to the above.

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