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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    well read the whole paper then, it goes into the methodology in detail. I only quoted a bit from the abstract.

    if you google 'vaccine reduced transmission' it brings up a number of them, they all seem to have broadly similar findings.

    Ah....Google!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder5 View Post
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    Ah....Google!

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    meaning what? You can look at the studies, who did them , the methodology, not sure exactly what more you'd require. Google is simple a route of access, it doesn't have any connection with the studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Sure, my point is simply that it's valid info to *take into consideration*, not undisputable fact. For me, if the vaccines were anything near as good at preventing virus transmission, as they are at protecting individuals vaccinated, then we wouldn't be seeing so many new infections.

    Marco.
    You've got to take into account the number of people in the world. Even if 90% were vaccinated that still leaves hundreds of millions who are catching and transmitting at full chat.

    Take the vaccines away and number of new infections would be considerably higher, 40% to 60% higher according to the research.
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    I'm not disputing that for a second, but it doesn't negate the point I made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    meaning what? You can look at the studies, who did them , the methodology, not sure exactly what more you'd require. Google is simple a route of access, it doesn't have any connection with the studies.
    No, but firstly consider who owns Google, what agendas they may have in controlling its content, and therefore only allowing studies on certain subjects to be searchable that conform to those agendas. It's no secret that the establishment often gag or suppress the views of those who seek to challenge the 'norm'.

    That's why, in order to dig deep enough into areas you need to discover the 'truth', sometimes it requires going a little 'off piste' with your choice of search engine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    meaning what? You can look at the studies, who did them , the methodology, not sure exactly what more you'd require. Google is simple a route of access, it doesn't have any connection with the studies.
    You can see what Google wants you to see, it’s not a simple route of access to truth necessarily.

    How have you verified your statement “it doesn’t have any connection with the studies”?

    Alphabet Inc. is subject to many antitrust lawsuits!

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    we're getting into the realms of fantasy again now so I'm going to leave it there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    we're getting into the realms of fantasy again...
    In your opinion I'd call it practicing some lateral thinking. Btw, that's not necessarily to agree with what Gary's just written, but I firmly stand by what I wrote previously.

    One could argue that it would be equally delusional to believe that the content of Google [i.e. what's permitted as being searchable] is freely open, and not in any way subject to bias or censorship, designed to serve the best interests of its multi-billionaire owner(s).

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    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    In your opinion I'd call it practicing some lateral thinking.

    Btw, that's not necessarily to agree with what Gary's just written, but I firmly stand by what I wrote previously. One could argue that it would be equally delusional to believe that the content of Google [i.e. what's permitted as searchable] is freely open, and not in any way subject to bias or censorship, designed to serve the best interests of its multi-billionaire owner(s).

    Marco.
    There’s nothing to disagree with.

    First line a statement, factual!
    Second line, a question.....unanswered!
    Third line, a statement, factual!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    meaning what? You can look at the studies, who did them , the methodology, not sure exactly what more you'd require. Google is simple a route of access, it doesn't have any connection with the studies.
    Maybe we should be looking at the 'dark web', that may be where all the honest people live
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