Johns Hopkins Medical Centre - World Coronavirus infection Map by Country.

[Mikeandvan]

Boris will keep the hysteria up as a blanket for his Brexit balls up.

[Macca]

Boris will keep the hysteria up as a blanket for his Brexit balls up.

Interesting observation. On the one hand you have people criticising the government for sending the children back to school and people back to work because it's 'too dangerous' and on the other hand you have people criticising the government for creating panic and hysteria over Covid when it is unwarranted. Which is it? Because it can't be both.

[guy]

Depends on starting viewpoint, personally I think Covid and Brexit are both a cover to take minds off Andy and Ghislaine

[anthonyTD]

You could well be right! Lets face it, his involvement with he who shall not be named has the potential to bring down the monarch.

Depends on starting viewpoint, personally I think Covid and Brexit are both a cover to take minds off Andy and Ghislaine

[dave2010]

Time to wake up folks and see that you're largely being fooled....

Difficult to know, or be sure of that.

Re Sweden - I've not kept up with the latest situation there. A while back it was doing relatively badly, but although its absolute status has probably not changed much, other countries may now have started to do worse.

As yet we don't know how things are going to turn out. Michael Portillo's train journey programme last night was in Sweden - presumably filmed in 2019, The train went through Östersund, and it turned out that Östersund had experienced significant issues about a hundred years ago with the so-called Spanish flu. An interesting comment was that there was a second wave, and it was more virulent than the first. It is often assumed that a second wave of a virus infection - if it occurs - may be milder than the first time round, but this would seem to not necessarily be true.

So at the moment we are still in a state of uncertainty - and we are not necessarily being fooled by anyone urging caution. We won't really know until we apply hindsight.

[anthonyTD]

Difficult to know, or be sure of that.

Re Sweden - I've not kept up with the latest situation there. A while back it was doing relatively badly, but although it's absolute status has probably not changed much, other countries may now have started to do worse.

As yet we don't know how things are going to turn out. Michael Portillo's train journey programme last night was in Sweden - presumably filmed in 2019, The train went through Östersund, and it turned out that Östersund had experienced significant issues about a hundred years ago with the so-called Spanish flu. An interesting comment was that there was a second wave, and it was more virulent than the first. It is often assumed that a second wave of a virus infection - if it occurs - may be milder than the first time round, but this would seem to not necessarily be true.

So at the moment we are still in a state of uncertainty - and we are not necessarily being fooled by anyone urging caution. We won't really know until we apply hindsight.

[struth]

a lot of differences in size, population density between the 2 countries to start with

[Marco]

Difficult to know, or be sure of that.

Re Sweden - I've not kept up with the latest situation there. A while back it was doing relatively badly, but although it's absolute status has probably not changed much, other countries may now have started to do worse.

As yet we don't know how things are going to turn out. Michael Portillo's train journey programme last night was in Sweden - presumably filmed in 2019, The train went through Östersund, and it turned out that Östersund had experienced significant issues about a hundred years ago with the so-called Spanish flu. An interesting comment was that there was a second wave, and it was more virulent than the first. It is often assumed that a second wave of a virus infection - if it occurs - may be milder than the first time round, but this would seem to not necessarily be true.

So at the moment we are still in a state of uncertainty - and we are not necessarily being fooled by anyone urging caution. We won't really know until we apply hindsight.

Yes, but at the moment, IMO, the level of caution is WAY OTT and simply not backed up by figures that justify it! That's my point

If, since these 'spikes' occurred (and they started well over a month ago), we'd seen multiple hospitalisations and deaths, as a result, then I could see the point, but that simply hasn't happened - and hardly anyone is considering that very important fact, or indeed questioning it.

And I don't see it happening this time either. There's WAY too much focus on CASES (and levels of infectiousness), and not enough on *actually* how deadly this virus is RIGHT NOW - not what it was like in April, as I believe it has since mutated into something less virulent.

Therefore, I'll stick to my original thoughts on this matter, which is that the situation distinctly stinks of an agenda, and what that agenda is, is yet to be revealed....

Marco.

[mad-moon]

Yes, but at the moment, IMO, the level of caution is WAY OTT and simply not backed up by figures that justify it! That's my point

If, since these 'spikes' occurred (and they started well over a month ago), we'd seen multiple hospitalisations and deaths, as a result, then I could see the point, but that simply hasn't happened - and hardly anyone is considering that very important fact, or indeed questioning it.

And I don't see it happening this time either. There's WAY too much focus on CASES (and levels of infectiousness), and not enough on *actually* how deadly this virus is RIGHT NOW - not what it was like in April, as I believe it has since mutated into something less virulent.

Therefore, I'll stick to my original thoughts on this matter, which is that the situation distinctly stinks of an agenda, and what that agenda is, is yet to be revealed....

Marco.

Eeee Marco...you and your conspiracy theories....

[anthonyTD]

The problem is; we only realy knew the first time round we had a problem when people started being admited to hospital, up until then, how do we know how many folk had it ? and just thought it was the usual Flu my point is, i think most folk are questioning the reality of the situation, and yes, they are probably using the current situation to impliment things that otherwise they wouldnt have a hope in hell of getting passed the genral public, but i still think there is a potential for this thing to blow up in our faces, if we don't do what's needed to at least safegaurd ourselves, and our nearest and dearest!

Yes, but at the moment, IMO, opinion the level of caution is WAY OTT and simply not backed up by figures that justify it! That's my point

If, since these 'spikes' occurred (and they started well over a month ago), we'd seen multiple hospitalisations and deaths, as a result, then I could see the point, but that simply hasn't happened - and hardly anyone is considering that very important fact, or indeed questioning it.

And I don't see it happening this time either. There's WAY too much focus on CASES (and levels of infectiousness), and not enough on *actually* how deadly this virus is RIGHT NOW - not what it was like in April, as I believe it has since mutated into something less virulent.

Therefore, I'll stick to my original thoughts on this matter, which is that the situation distinctly stinks of an agenda, and what that agenda is, is still to be revealed....

Marco.