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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Well the economy didn't function...
    Not very well, no, but people still worked and were able to earn a living and companies were trading. Unlike now, with people living on government handouts because they can't work, whilst under house arrest, and most businesses closed. That was my point.

    I don't think having the vaccine will be made mandatory in law, no. Could that be justified? Well possibly, but I agree that although the virus is potentially deadly I agree it isn't deadly enough to warrant such an extreme measure. I would be happy to have it voluntarily, I suspect that applies to at least 90% of people. So herd immunity would be created and the minority who refuse to have it would not be sufficient to overwhelm the health service unless they all caught it at once.

    So I don't see the need for a mandatory vaccination program. You may find that some employers will insist on staff having it before they can return to work though.
    Ok, fair enough. I hope you're right. Good luck in taking that poison though, if it happens, and may your God go with you.....

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    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    And now for this...



    Led by Donkeys indeed! Dontcha just lurve these guys?

    It should be "STAY ALERT - GOVERNMENT HYPOCRISY - COSTS LIVES", though!

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    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Not very well, no, but people still worked and were able to earn a living and companies were trading. Unlike now, with people living on government handouts because they can't work, whilst under house arrest, and most businesses closed. That was my point.
    Of the businesses I work with (several hundred) only about 10 percent stopped trading completely and all of those are now up and running again to some extent. It's not true to say that there has been absolutely no wealth-creating economic activity during this lockdown, wheras that was pretty much the case in WW2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post

    As a matter of interest, what's your view on any vaccine created becoming mandatory, with penalties applied for non-compliance, should that occur? Do you think such measures could ever be justified, on human rights grounds alone, and to control a virus that has a death rate of around 0.3%?

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    Based on some figures a scientist had worked out. It was on a video I watched. Will see if I can find it

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    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Of the businesses I work with (several hundred) only about 10 percent stopped trading completely and all of those are now up and running again to some extent. It's not true to say that there has been absolutely no wealth-creating economic activity during this lockdown, wheras that was pretty much the case in WW2.
    Yes, but that's only the ones you deal with, which I suspect will mostly be large businesses.

    What about the hospitality (or airline industry), and most importantly all the thousands of small businesses (pub and restaurant owners, food shops, gift shops, hairdressers, coffee shops, sports arenas, etc, etc) that haven't been trading for nearly two months! Will they ever get the chance to do so again - and if so, under what kind of draconian restrictions, imposed in the name of 'controlling the virus and saving lives'?

    In terms of your last sentence, I agree, but that's not what I was saying.

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    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, but that's only the ones you know, which I suspect will mostly be large businesses.

    What about the hospitality (or airline industry), and most importantly all the thousands of small businesses (pub and restaurant owners, gift shops, hairdressers, coffee shops, etc, etc) that haven't been trading for nearly two months! And will they ever get the chance to do so again - and if so, under what kind of draconian restrictions, imposed in the name of 'controlling the virus'?

    In terms of your last sentence, I agree, but that's not what I was saying.

    Marco.
    No, it ranges from sole traders up to multi-nationals. So a pretty good cross-section. Obviously there are some businesses, like you say, which have been completely screwed, however I don't think there was any realistic alternative to forcing them to close. Clearly the best solution, the only solution I can see for them is a vaccine. A vaccine is the only way we can return to complete normality. That's why I don't see why you have an issue with it, leaving aside all the Bill Gates microchip stuff of course.
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    American social distancing
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
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    been a lot more people out today around here than of late, ..on foot, bike and car..


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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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