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    Spanish Flu in 1919 was very nasty. They did lockdown. Closed schools in the US. But I suppose we got used to catching colds and Flu on buses and trains.

    And other countries have very similar graphs to us, so not everyone can be lying.

    Must get my flu jab. Not too stressed about that either. Not much chance of catching colds living like the hermit...

    I believe the doctors are worried about people having Flu and Covid at the same time, but dunno really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    As to your quote of 99% what about the ten's of thousands of Medical, and Scientific people around the world that are trying desperately to get their voices heard, and are being censored, and removed from every aspect of social, and mainstream media.
    Indeed... It's not as if they're 'loony-tune conspiracy theorists', best ignored; these people are scientific experts, and so just as qualified to comment on or judge the current situation, as the 'experts' that the government are following!

    So... WHY aren't their voices being allowed to be heard...???

    They should be all over mainstream TV and radio, never mind anywhere else, QUESTIONING and CHALLENGING the other, so-called experts giving advice to the government, in order to allow people to form the most balanced, informed and educated opinion about what's happening! Not simply what the BBC or government WANT them to believe, without proper scrutiny.

    But no, they're gagged instead, and of course all of that is entirely reasonable and understandable in a so-called DEMOCRACY.... Aye right, zip my head back up again when you've finished!

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    The main thing that's bothering folk,[me included] and thus why many may not be taking this situation as serious as the government and media want, and that is; that no government, or mainstream news has ever catagoricaly reported the absolute facts of where this came from, and how it got into Humans, just a load of miss-information, and one country blaming another etc, WE NEED TO KNOW to be able to fully understand the implications [or not] of what we may potentialy be up against in the future.
    You can keep shutting the gate after the horse is gone, or you can find out who's leaving the bloody catch off the gate, and stop it happening, once and for all!
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    Indeed, mate.

    The lack of proper transparency and honesty from the 'powers that be', from day one, regarding almost every aspect of this 'pandemic', has been one of the biggest problems - and *THAT* is precisely what breeds DISTRUST, among those who (quite rightly) are simply unwilling to swallow as Gospel everything that they're being fed by the authorities [count me in with bells on!] and also feeds so called 'conspiracy theories'...!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed, mate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed... It's not as if they're 'loony-tune conspiracy theorists', best ignored; these people are scientific experts, and so just as qualified to comment on or judge the current situation, as the 'experts' that the government are following!

    So... WHY aren't their voices being allowed to be heard...???

    They should be all over mainstream TV and radio, never mind anywhere else, QUESTIONING and CHALLENGING the other, so-called experts giving advice to the government, in order to allow people to form the most balanced, informed and educated opinion about what's happening! Not simply what the BBC or government WANT them to believe, without proper scrutiny.

    But no, they're gagged instead, and of course all of that is entirely reasonable and understandable in a so-called DEMOCRACY.... Aye right, zip my head back up again when you've finished!

    Marco.
    These other 'experts, who are being gagged by mainstream and social media, how did you hear about them, was it smoke signals or carrier pigeon?

    And as for the 30,000 deaths annually from flu, could that figure be partly due to the existence of a vaccine? Similarly the 'mere' 50.000 or so Covid deaths (only 20,000 more!) could be due to the lockdown measures. Without that, maybe the death toll would be in the hundreds of thousands. I can't say for sure, nor can any other bugger on here. So until a vaccine comes online I'll (reluctantly) follow the guidelines, because there's nothing else to do
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    An alternative view [with some real facts thrown in] from a few of those many thousands mentioned;
    Don't shoot the messenger!

    Is it 100% Proven That Viruses Cause Disease in Humans?
    Amazingly, no – it is not. Germ theory is just that: a theory. For those wanting a more technical explanation of this alternative understanding of viruses, check out Dr. Thomas Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and especially Dr. Stefan Lanka. Kaufman has given some recent interviews with Crrow777 and Richie from Boston where he elaborates upon the idea that viruses have never been proven to cause disease. Both Cowan and Kaufman discuss the tests that were done after the 1918 Spanish Flu (an outbreak which it turns out was caused by EMFs/electrification and/or vaccines) where they had sick people breathe into healthy people’s mouths. The healthy people didn’t get sick. Likewise, they had sick horses sneeze and cough mucus, fluids, droplets, etc. into a bag, put food in that bag, then gave that food to healthy horses. They were unable to make the healthy horses sick.
    Dr. Stefan Lanka is the king in this area. He is a German biologist and virologist who came to understand we have been lied to on a grand scale regarding the nature of the virus. He offered a reward of €100,000 for anyone who could scientifically prove that measles was a virus. That case that went all the way to the German Supreme Court where he won. Paul Fassa reports:
    “At first it appeared he had lost. But Dr. Lanka took his loss to a higher court with more experts and the backing of two independent laboratories. He wound up not having to pay. It turned out that the “proof” provided was a composite of several different electron microscope images. And the composite involved different components of damaged cells. The composite could not be duplicated. The German Federal Supreme Court confirmed that there was not enough evidence to prove the existence of the measles virus.”
    “In a recent ruling, judges at the German Federal Supreme Court (BGH) confirmed that the measles virus does not exist. Furthermore, there is not a single scientific study in the world which could prove the existence of the virus in any scientific literature. This raises the question of what was actually injected into millions over the past few decades. Not a single scientist, immunologist, infectious disease specialist or medical doctor has ever been able to establish a scientific foundation, not only for the vaccination of measles but any vaccination for infants, pregnant women, the elderly and even many adult subgroups.”
    Lanka has spoken out against similar viral epidemics or pandemics, such as the H5N1 bird flu scare (which was being hyped in 2005). Finally, there are even other prominent virologists like professor Peter Duesberg who have stated with solid evidence that HIV does not cause AIDS. Here are some more quotes from Lanka (who speaks German, so translated into English):
    “What viruses are there at all, then, and what are they doing?
    Structures which you can characterize as viruses there are in many species of bacteria and in simple life forms, similar to the bacteria. They are elements of together-living of different cells in a common cell type which have remained independent. This is called a symbiosis, an endosymbiosis, which has arisen in the course of the process of different cell types’ and structures’ combining, an endosymbiosis which has brought forth the present cell type, that type of cells of which humans, animals and plants consist … Very important: Viruses are component parts of very simple organisms, for instance of the confervacea type of algae, a particular species of a one-celled chlorella alga and of very many bacteria. As existing there, these viral component parts are called phages. In complex organisms however, in particular in humans, or in animals or plants, such structures which you might call viruses have never been seen.
    In contrast to the bacteria in our cells, the mitochondria, or the bacteria in every plant, the chloroplasts, which cannot leave the common cell, since they are dependent on the metabolism of the common cell, viruses can leave the cell, since they are not carrying out any survival-vital tasks within the cell.
    Viruses, thus, are component parts of the cell which have turned their entire metabolism over to the common cell and therefore can leave the cell. Outside the common cell, they are helping other cells, in that they are transferring construction and energy substances. Any other function of theirs has never been observed.
    Those actual viruses which have been scientifically demonstrated to exist are performing, in the very complex processes of interactions of different cells, a helping, a supporting and in no case a destructive function.
    Also in the case of diseases, actually neither in the diseased organism nor in a bodily fluid has any structure which you could characterize as a virus ever been seen or isolated. The proposition that there is any sick-making virus whatsoever is a transparent swindle, a fatal lie with dramatic consequences.”
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    Measles and Rubella are virus's according to everyone i know including the WHO. sorry but im out of this now. its becoming odd....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    These other 'experts, who are being gagged by mainstream and social media, how did you hear about them, was it smoke signals or carrier pigeon?
    Lol - on various non-mainstream (and that's the point, as they're being forced to use such platforms, due to having been gagged elsewhere) media outlets. That shouldn't be necessary, though! They should be on national TV and radio, offering their contrary opinions and stating their cases, for the benefit of presenting a WIDER and more BALANCED view of matters to the public.

    If it were up to me, I'd have some of them assembled, along with other experts who support and/or have been advising the government on how to handle this 'pandemic', live on national TV, in an in-depth 'questions and answers' session, where members of the general public could participate and CHALLENGE the assembled experts on all matters relating to this 'pandemic', including vaccines - and the questioning wouldn't just last for two minutes, like that during the joke nightly government 'briefings' on the BBC news; it would a couple of hours long and take place, say twice weekly, until Covid was no longer presenting us with such a problem.

    Get EVERYTHING all out into the open, with the authorities making the rules being 100% TRANSPARENT and ACCOUNTABLE for their actions - then let the people decide which experts to follow, not simply those they're being told to blindly obey by the government. Knowledge is power. That's what should happen in a truly free and democratic country, as opposed to an increasingly thinly disguised dictatorship!

    And as for the 30,000 deaths annually from flu, could that figure be partly due to the existence of a vaccine?
    Well my first thought would be that if 30,000 people are still dying every year from flu, then the vaccine is piss-poor effective! Seems that way, no? So what chance have completely new and untried ones got of being any more effective against Covid?

    My second thought would be that if there were no flu vaccine, then even more folks would've died, so that simply highlights how serious a virus flu is - YET the country has never been subjected to lockdowns, mask wearing and social distancing, etc, in order to prevent the spread of flu...

    Pre-flu vaccine (when was it invented - do you know? I think it was around the 1940s), and with otherwise many tens of thousands of people dying from flu every year, can you remember the sort of hoo-hah we're seeng now with Covid, having been created to tackle flu?

    No, I don't remember anything either... So you should ask yourself WHY....

    Similarly the 'mere' 50.000 or so Covid deaths (only 20,000 more!) could be due to the lockdown measures. Without that, maybe the death toll would be in the hundreds of thousands.
    I didn't say 'mere', and nor was I demeaning the number of deaths as insignificant (one death is one too many). My point was that why are 50,000 Covid deaths seemingly of 'greater importance' or significance than 30,000 flu deaths? Is the 30,000 deaths from flu not just as important a statistic to warrant similar action, in terms of prevention of its spread, as we're seeing now with Covid?

    And your point about the potentially greater number of deaths there could've been from Covid, without lockdowns, is only valid if you believe that the current death figures are accurate, and not being deliberately inflated for effect - and there is credible evidence of that around if you care to look.

    Plus, like I said, where are the death stats for all the people who've committed suicide from the effect of lockdowns and loss of jobs/income, plus those from folks who couldn't get cancer or other vital treatments? Don't they count either - or is that just seen as 'collateral damage'??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Struth
    Measles and Rubella are virus's according to everyone i know including the WHO.
    And there are plenty of electron microscope images available of paramyxovirus, which cause measles, mumps and rubella.
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