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[Marco]

But then; you look at the crap that has to be cleared up year after year at Glastonbury, how come we dont feel the same about that ?
It really makes me wonder sometimes what goes on in their heads, not a lot by the look of it!

I know - I've never seen the attraction... Especially wallowing up to your waist in mud and water - inside a tent, too! Claustrophobic crowds, full of sweaty bods. Then there are the 'toilets'!!

Don't get me wrong, I love listening to live music, but in just a *little* more cleanliness and comfort! The only such festival that would've interested me, had I been old enough, would've been Woodstock, in '69. The rest you can keep!

Marco.

[Marco]

I read that bit about 'setting fire to the Liver Building.' The headline was 'Liver Building Burns.' When you read it you discover that all that happened was a flare landed on a balcony and was then extinguished. Click bait.

Never mind that, where are your celebrations on the footy thread, part-time armchair boy? Call yourself a Liverpool 'supporter'!!

Marco.

[Macca]

Never mind that, where are your celebrations on the footy thread, part-time armchair boy? Call yourself a Liverpool 'supporter'!!

Marco.

Didn't want to rub it in

[Macca]

I admit to being an armchair supporter though. I've not been to a game since 1979 even though I can get in for free.

[Marco]

Didn't want to rub it in

Just a pity it's happened during a pandemic, which spoils things somewhat! Otherwise, I'd defo have jumped on the train and joined in the celebrations!! I hear that Klopp still wants to parade the trophy round the city in an open-air bus, once things are more back to normal, so I'll just wait until then

Marco.

[Marco]

I admit to being an armchair supporter though. I've not been to a game since 1979 even though I can get in for free.

Free - what's the deal there, then?

Marco.

[Marco]

The bloke with his mesh 'mask' in Walmart was illustrating a good point. So many people get told 'These are the rules' and then not only do they obey them to the letter even when it makes no sense but they can't wait to point fingers and get on their high horses at the people who think that blind obedience to blanket dictats is for fools.

We've always had a healthy disrespect for authority in this country. It's a fundamental part of our culture and one of our strengths.

Indeed! However... We're back to the old 'where's the happy medium' again, as it always seems to be about ONE way or the OTHER - never the middle ground.

As much as I wholeheartedly agree with your point [and indeed consider it as fundamental in protecting our civil liberties], people also need to know how to behave like civilised and responsible human beings, rather than rabid feral dogs - and so where necessary - I'm all for drumming that into them in ANY reasonable, but forceful way, which gets the job done!

Having a healthy disrespect for authority is fine (for the right reasons), but having authorities that are often too soft or scared to 'upset anyone', in order to take decisive punitive action against those who deserve it, and therefore command no respect from the public, is no use either.

The police wouldn't take the kind of pish we've seen here recently, in the likes of Germany or Italy, I can assure you. One stern LOOK from a tooled-up member of the Carabinieri, is enough to put the fear of God into anyone!

Marco.

[anthonyTD]

A very interesting watch!
https://londonreal.tv/zach-bush-our-...andemic-worse/

[Macca]

Indeed! However... We're back to the old 'where's the happy medium' again, as it always seems to be about ONE way or the OTHER - never the middle ground.

As much as I wholeheartedly agree with your point [and indeed consider it as fundamental in protecting our civil liberties], people also need to know how to behave like civilised and responsible human beings, rather than rabid feral dogs - and so where necessary - I'm all for drumming that into them in ANY reasonable, but forceful way, which gets the job done!

Having a healthy disrespect for authority is fine (for the right reasons), but having authorities that are often too soft or scared to 'upset anyone', in order to take decisive punitive action against those who deserve it, and therefore command no respect from the public, is no use either.

The police wouldn't take the kind of pish we've seen here recently, in the likes of Germany or Italy, I can assure you. One stern LOOK from a tooled-up member of the Carabinieri, is enough to put the fear of God into anyone!

Marco.

I agree, going to the beach when you shouldn't is one thing but trashing it isn't acceptable.

[struth]

liverpool fans are as bad if not worse