Johns Hopkins Medical Centre - World Coronavirus infection Map by Country.

[struth]

Sure I dont use a Bbq now. I used to have good small american one you could even use indoors. had a lid etc and was all stainless steel outside and base double walled so you could pick it up. only needed 8 bits of coal to run for 2/3 hrs.. marvelous thing. I gave it to my Bro

[Macca]

I would be interested in a char-grill you can use indoors, didn't know they existed. I have looked.

[Marco]

We eat very little meat these days (both daughters are veggie/vegan). I actually prefer sausages fried to grilled, with pork chops the reverse is true.

That's cool, each to his or her own. I do agree with the latter, though.

Del's a veggie (verging towards vegan), but that doesn't stop her cooking meat (or fish) for others or me, plus it means I'm never short of my '5-a-day', as I get to eat some of what she has, along with meat [although I'm happy sometimes to eat veggie meals on their own, as I love good salads and pasta, and pretty much all veg], and there's always a ton of fresh veg and fruit in the house!

Marco.

[struth]

I would be interested in a char-grill you can use indoors, didn't know they existed. I have looked.

you just started it outside and once going well you could use inside. Need to find the name as If forgot... it came in a carry case so you could take it on trips and was pretty safe.
if it was raining i started it at back door then once going well i just moved it inside. the grease atc was channeled away so you didnt get big smokey plumes and flames.
you could smoke things too

[struth]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cobb-Barbec...21952698&psc=1

cobb.. can use a cobb stone in too but i only used charcoal bricks. pretty much smokeless.. just leave it near an open door

[struth]

https://www.bbqworld.co.uk/everdure/...xoCA04QAvD_BwE

this too maybe

[Marco]

And back on-topic, just breaking:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...countries.html

"Cambridge-based firm has doubled down on its *unproven* coronavirus vaccine..."

Note the "unproven" bit!!!

Get your veins ready for opening, folks, by September... So far, I don't see any reason for doubting the prediction I've made.

Marco.

[Joe]

From the article you posted:

'Pascal Soriot, chief executive of AstraZeneca, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: 'We are starting to manufacture this vaccine right now. And we have to have it ready to be used by the time we have the results.

'Of course, with this decision comes a risk but it is a financial risk and that financial risk is that if the vaccine doesn't work.

'We will find this out at the end of August, then all the materials, all the vaccines we have manufactured will be wasted.'

There's no point in developing a vaccine if it can't be produced in large numbers, quickly, once proven. The manufacturer accepts that there's a risk the vaccine doesn't work, and that it's 'back to the drawing board'. There's nothing to justify panic about 'compulsory vaccination' when this is specifically outlawed in current legislation!

[Marco]

The point is that the bloody thing's obviously nowhere near PROPERLY ready, so we shouldn't be hearing these conversations until it's done and dusted! So you have to ask yourself why? WHY THE RUSH? WHY ALL THE 'HOO-HAH'?

Has any other UNPROVEN vaccine for a serious virus been given such a big 'shove' to be produced and rolled out so quickly, especially one with such a low mortality rate in comparison with other much more serious and deadlier known diseases mankind has faced?

Jeez, you'd think they'd found a cure for cancer!

And in terms of "current legislation", the key word there is "current". That can soon be changed if the government give themselves a good enough excuse! Sorry, I understand your scepticism, but I see NOTHING to disprove the prediction I made earlier of how this pandemic is likely to unfold, only increasing evidence to justify it.

Marco.

[Alex_UK]

the american ones also do a drying function(like dried fruits etc), but we dont get that here; maybe its less common to do here

Ours is the Max, and it has that option assuming it's the "Dehydrate" function (which I've never used.) I must admit I mainly use it for the whole chicken - 20 mins pressure cooked with rosemary and well seasoned, then 12 minutes Air Crisping with a garlic, lemon and balsamic glaze - comes out perfect every time. Need to get a bit more adventurous with it and try some new recipes, rather than just chickens and chips! But I would definitely recommend them.