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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I'm not sure that matters, as the fact is a very high and significant number of people (as quoted) die every year from flu, many of whom one would presume had the flu jab, as if you're vulnerable to having a bad reaction to flu, you're going to want to be inoculated against it.

    Yet despite that, they still die... Therefore, as I've said, that suggests that the flu vaccine isn't anywhere near 100% effective (I believe instead around 60/70%), and that's been around and 'refined' for many years, so why would vaccines for Covid, only just released, be likely any more effective?

    Also, indeed as I've already asked you, why considering how many people die from flu every year (and have done for many DECADES before Covid arrived), has there never been as much 'hoo-hah'/mass widespread disruption on all levels, created around tackling that, as there has been with Covid, especially when vaccines clearly aren't a 'magic bullet'?

    I would appreciate you giving an answer to that

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    could it be that...Cold and Flu medications are a multi million pound money making exercise every year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guy View Post
    I'm 62 and nowhere near flexible enough to manage that - I take my hat off to you old chap
    You wouldn't want to kiss him though...
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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    There is a reason for the flu vaccine not being effective as the vaccine is a guessing game as to which jab you get depending on the following

    The flu vaccine is not 100% effective
    Even if you get your flu vaccine on time, it's not 100% effective. So there's still a chance you can get the flu even after you've been vaccinated.

    That's because scientists don't always correctly match the viruses in the vaccine with those that pop up during the flu season. This is what's called a mismatch.

    The CDC typically recommends that vaccine manufacturers include virus particles or weakened viruses that have been circulating in the Southern Hemisphere six months or so before the upcoming flu season in the Northern Hemisphere. However, what infects the Northern Hemisphere isn't always the same virus as what popped up in the Southern Hemisphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    As I've said before, the lockdown is doing my head in, and is bad for so many people in so many ways, so roll on vaccine. But don't fret too much about it, me and many others will 'take one for the team' and put our faith in the efficacy and safety of whatever vaccine makes it past the post. Then we can all go back to our lives bickering about Brexit including those who would prefer to leave the 'risk taking' to others
    Lol - it's a matter of one's individual choice and personal circumstances. If I were still working full-time like you and in daily contact with a number of different people, I might think differently about how my actions (and attitude towards vaccines) impacted on others.

    The fact is, I spend the vast amount of my time at home alone, with only the cats for company, and Del when she returns from work. Yes, we both socialise and also go out together, but that's still far from a regular occurrence - maybe once or twice a week, max, and sometimes it can be many weeks before either of us goes anywhere (other than out to work or for food shopping).

    Therefore, in comparison with many others, we're not really out and about enough to spread viruses to any significant extent [especially me], and when we are, we take all the necessary precautions and follow the rules, so in the grand scheme of things, I don't think my decision not to have a vaccine for Covid will have much (if any) impact on others

    One more thing: If the death figures are being inflated 'for effect', what is the effect 'they' are striving for?
    Quite simply to create a culture of fear! When people are scared senseless (as indeed many are of catching Covid), then they're easier to manipulate and control, for all sorts of potential reasons - and *if* that's true in relation to this 'pandemic', then the real reasons for that haven't yet been revealed.

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    I get my Flu jab every year and touch wood...I haven't had the flu for over 10 years and I can't remember the last time I had a common cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I'm not sure that matters, as the fact is a very high and significant number of people (as quoted) die every year from flu, many of whom one would presume had the flu jab, as if you're vulnerable to having a bad reaction to flu, you're going to want to be inoculated against it.

    Yet despite that, they still die... Therefore, as I've said, that suggests that the flu vaccine isn't anywhere near 100% effective (I believe instead around 60/70%), and that's been around and 'refined' for many years, so why would vaccines for Covid, only just released, be likely any more effective?

    Also, indeed as I've already asked you, why considering how many people die from flu every year (and have done for many DECADES before Covid arrived), has there never been as much 'hoo-hah'/mass widespread disruption on all levels, created around tackling that, as there has been with Covid, especially when vaccines clearly aren't a 'magic bullet'?

    I would appreciate you giving an answer to that

    Marco.
    You (or your 'dark web' is presuming(!) that many of the folk dying from flu. Presuming! Then you go on to say that vaccines are CLEARLY not a magic bullet. I can't reconcile those two statements, sorry. At least you didn't have to wait 24 hours for a reply this time
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad-moon View Post
    could it be that...Cold and Flu medications are a multi million pound money making exercise every year?
    Indeed... So don't you think it's a *possibility* that the pharmaceutical companies producing such could be using Covid as a vehicle/excuse to allow them to make FAR more money than they're ever done, from WORLDWIDE sales of vaccines, and therefore be driving the agenda in some way?

    Look at the VAST quantities of doses that the UK alone has ordered, never mind the rest of the world... Just THINK how much money is being made as a result, and so financially, potentially who seeks to gain most out of this whole situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    You (or your 'dark web' is presuming(!) that many of the folk dying from flu. Presuming! Then you go on to say that vaccines are CLEARLY not a magic bullet. I can't reconcile those two statements, sorry. At least you didn't have to wait 24 hours for a reply this time
    I'm not automatically presuming anything, simply putting it out there as a possibility! Do you have evidence to refute it? My point is that the majority of people have the flu jab every year, yet despite that, up to 30,000 still die.

    Therefore, vaccines clearly aren't a 'magic bullet', as none of them are 100% effective, especially those for flu. A true 'magic bullet' would be 100% effective. If you do some research, you'll find that the best figures for the efficacy of flu vaccines are around 70% - so what happens with the remaining 30% (at best) of inefficacy? It KILLS folk, that's what!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed... So don't you think it's a *possibility* that the pharmaceutical companies producing such could be using Covid as a vehicle/excuse to allow them to make FAR more money than they're ever done from sales of vaccines?

    Look at the VAST quantities of doses that the UK alone has ordered, never mind the rest of the world... Just THINK how much profit is being made as a result, and so financially, potentially who seeks to gain most out of this whole situation!

    Marco.
    The Vaccine makers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad-moon View Post
    There is a reason for the flu vaccine not being effective as the vaccine is a guessing game as to which jab you get depending on the following

    The flu vaccine is not 100% effective
    Even if you get your flu vaccine on time, it's not 100% effective. So there's still a chance you can get the flu even after you've been vaccinated.
    Indeed, and the same will also apply to those who will be getting vaccinated for Covid, especially when it mutates in a similar way to flu.

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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