Johns Hopkins Medical Centre - World Coronavirus infection Map by Country.

[Marco]

Indeed, and in terms of what written in the article, what did I say before about Fauci and his cronies, who've all got vested interests in the sale of these vaccines, so you can't trust a word that they say - and certainly not follow their advice to the letter about how to handle this pandemic!

In that respect, at the very minimum, folks need to open their eyes and see things for what they REALLY are, rather than how they've been deliberately portrayed (biased) by the governments and media.

Marco.

[anthonyTD]

The main reason i sugested in an earlier post that the vaccine be randomly tested batch by batch was because i [along with many others i presume] suspected that there may not be anything in the vaccine to help immunise the person receiving it, think about it, if this whole thing has been a fabrication, then all it would take is a placebo injection to be at least 90% effective.
The governments have already admited that a positive test result does not mean the person tested has Cov-2 virus, also if this Dr is correct in what he is stating, Cov-2 virus hasnt even been isolated, and therefore identified as the virus responsible for all of this.

Indeed, and in terms of what written in the article, what did I say before about Fauci and his cronies, who've all got vested interests in the sale of these vaccines, so you can't trust a word that they say - and certainly not follow their advice to the letter about how to handle this pandemic!

In that respect, at the very minimum, folks need to open their eyes and see things for what they REALLY are, rather than how they've been deliberately portrayed (biased) by the governments and media.

Marco.

[Marco]

Ok, but if it's just a placebo, then how, in any real sense, will that help address the virus? The virus definitely exists, it's not imagined or fake, so what would be gained, in real terms, simply by administering a placebo?

Marco.

[system7]

If I was a crook, I'd just put distilled water in glass phials, charge about a £100 a pop for a 90% effective vaccine, and run away giggling with the money.

AFAIK, most 98% of people survive this germ anyway.

The FTSE 100 which is a goodish barometer of whatever is going on has had its best week since April:

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-covid-vaccine

Even the Guardian says that.

[anthonyTD]

Because if this is what many people think it is ie; Flu, then it will eventualy fizzle out as it always does year on year out, and they will say "look" the vaccine has worked!
I am not saying this is the case, but you have to wonder.
The Flu vaccine is at best 50% effective, and they have been studying that for many years, how have they managed to develope a vaccine for a brand new corona virus that is 90% effective in around 9 months, thats the big question everyone should be asking.

Ok, but if it's just a placebo, then how, in any real sense, will that help address the virus? The virus definitely exists, it's not imagined or fake, so what would be gained, in real terms, simply by administering a placebo?

Marco.

[system7]

AFAIK, and we have all experienced this, the Common Cold and the 'Flu are extremely difficult germs to deal with.

They mutate extremely fast so are a moving and hard to hit target.

They breed in crowded environments.

The Workplace, Trains and Pubs. You name it.

I am not a medical expert, but this Coronavirus is a bitch. Inter-species, so it's always going to lurk somewhere in the Animal Kingdom.

But, IMO, there is much more going on right now. Coronavirus may be the least of our problems.

[Macca]

Because if this is what many people think it is ie; Flu, then it will eventualy fizzle out as it always does year on year out, and they will say "look" the vaccine has worked!
I am not saying this is the case, but you have to wonder.
The Flu vaccine is at best 50% effective, and they have been studying that for many years, how have they managed to develope a vaccine for a brand new corona virus that is 90% effective in around 9 months, thats the big question everyone should be asking.

Because many times more resources than normal have been put into it?

[Marco]

Because if this is what many people think it is ie; Flu, then it will eventualy fizzle out as it always does year on year out, and they will say "look" the vaccine has worked!

I see where you're coming from.

However, it's *defo* not flu, as some friends of ours have had it (one in particular got it very bad and was hospitalised for a period with Covid Pneumonia). That was over 2 months ago, and she's still suffering now from the effects of 'Long Covid', with the associated 'brain fog' (can't retain memory of much for more than minutes) and has almost completely lost her sense of taste and smell - none of which she's ever had with flu.

So... Regardless of anything else, I'm convinced that this virus is quite different from flu.

The Flu vaccine is at best 50% effective, and they have been studying that for many years, how have they managed to develope a vaccine for a brand new corona virus that is 90% effective in around 9 months, thats the big question everyone should be asking.

Indeed - and IMO that's the more cogent point, and certainly something I've been questioning for a while. Quite frankly, it STNKS of an agenda (as yet to be revealed), and also why I don't consider it as being anywhere near safe, and indeed have warned off everyone healthy enough I know and care about from having it!

Marco.

[anthonyTD]

Don't forget, Flu kills between 10,000 and 30,000 people in this country alone each year, don't you think those figures would be enough to warrant the same resourses given to this ?

Because many times more resources than normal have been put into it?

[Marco]

Because many times more resources than normal have been put into it?

Yes, so they say, but should we simply accept that as Gospel? Especially with something so critical to our future well-being. I'd like to drill down much more into the details and see some proper evidence of that with my OWN eyes.

In any case, even if that were true, there's still no way of knowing what the potential side-effects of these new vaccines will be in six, twelve months or more - and THAT for me is the biggest concern, not their claimed efficacy in the short term - especially when come the spring, this virus will almost certainly have petered out.

You don't just inject something, relatively untried like this into you, without being as intensely critical as possible of how safe it really is, especially when you're still relatively young and healthy and, God willing otherwise, have many years ahead of you!

You only get ONE chance to make the right decision with these forthcoming vaccines. Get it wrong, and the potential consequences could be life-changing - and NOT in a good way!

Marco.