Johns Hopkins Medical Centre - World Coronavirus infection Map by Country.

[Marco]

Wiki is open source IIRC, which means it’s open for change at will by anyone?

Yes, that's the problem, and certainly why it can't be cited as any more of a reliable source of fact than a YT video produced by someone such as a medical professional. The only FACT is that the content of both is potentially subject to bias and/or error.

Marco.

[Stryder5]

And this is addressed to no one in particular: Is it just possible that if the government ditched the idea of vaccines and pushed everyone down the Ivermectin route, there would be similar resistance and suspicion? Just sayin...

Exactly the opposite, the Government, just possibly, suppressed the use of any treatment (or development thereof) after test diagnosis to concentrate on vaccine development.

Haven’t we always been told early treatment is more effective? So positive diagnosis by PCR and people were sent home to die, with no treatment, and it was a surprise when hospital cases rose threatening the NHS?

F**k me you couldn’t make it up, gross incomprehension and incompetence!

Gary

[Pigmy Pony]

Lol... ALL the world governments, not just the UK, are lining the pockets of big pharma, but the UK arguably less so, *if* the info contained in the article Martin linked to, in reference to AZ, is correct.

How? Well, in terms of the reported profits made by Pfizer and Moderna, by continually pushing jabs (and in the process buying more vaccines), of course!

I agree with your point on Ivermectin, but that doesn't negate the one I made of it possibility being deliberately discredited in order to push the vaccines, as it's a cheap drug, and so there's less money to be made from selling it. Ultimately though, it comes down to which side of the story you choose to believe!

Marco.

I think there's a big "IF" hanging over everything we read about everything everywhere Personally I'm not choosing to believe any of what's being said. And EVERYONE has an agenda imo. So all we can do is put our faith in something and hope for the best.

Maybe the truth will out in the fullness of time, bit I'm not holding my breath. Maybe when some of us start to peg it, and the rest can say "I told you so"

[Pigmy Pony]

Exactly the opposite, the Government, just possibly, suppressed the use of any treatment (or development thereof) after test diagnosis to concentrate on vaccine development.

Haven’t we always been told early treatment is more effective? So positive diagnosis by PCR and people were sent home to die, with no treatment, and it was a surprise when hospital cases rose threatening the NHS?

F**k me you couldn’t make it up, gross incomprehension and incompetence!

Gary

Completely agree Gary, we know they are a right shower of shits. Point I was trying (badly) to make is that opposing views, via YT, Wiki, and a million other sites aren't necessarily any more reliable. Someone may be telling the truth, but who?

[Marco]

I think there's a big "IF" hanging over everything we read about everything everywhere Personally I'm not choosing to believe any of what's being said. And EVERYONE has an agenda imo. So all we can do is put our faith in something and hope for the best.

Maybe the truth will out in the fullness of time, bit I'm not holding my breath. Maybe when some of us start to peg it, and the rest can say "I told you so"

Lol, hopefully the latter won't be the case!

I totally agree with the rest of your post, however, speaking personally, I have no 'agenda' other than seeking to get to the TRUTH of the matter and exposing all forms of corruption and nefarious behaviour, especially from governments and other authority figures I don't trust one iota.

The biggest problem we have in the world we live in today, is too many wealthy people in positions of power looking after No1, to the detriment of all else!! Historically, that's always been the case, but with modern technology, it's worse than ever.

Marco.

[Stryder5]

Yes, that's the problem, and certainly why it can't be cited as any more of a reliable source of fact than a YT video produced by someone such as a medical professional. The only FACT is that the content of both is potentially subject to bias and/or error.

Marco.

You have to look at the probability factor of correctness, Wiki? ....open source effected and changed by anyone. BBC? Not credible on any subject.

You’re wrong Marco the BBC cannot be considered biased or error strewn

Gary

[Stryder5]

Completely agree Gary, we know they are a right shower of shits. Point I was trying (badly) to make is that opposing views, via YT, Wiki, and a million other sites aren't necessarily any more reliable. Someone may be telling the truth, but who?

Certainly not The WHO...

Gary

[Marco]

Completely agree Gary, we know they are a right shower of shits. Point I was trying (badly) to make is that opposing views, via YT, Wiki, and a million other sites aren't necessarily any more reliable. Someone may be telling the truth, but who?

All you can do is choose which 'truth' best appeases your own biases, and therefore notion of such

Marco.

[Bksabath]

Imo there should be both Vaccines and cure and prophylactic

The evidence that Ivermectin may work is out there as I keep posting and as on that latest Dr Campbell clip
Merks has a new drug going for medical trials it will cost around $700 instead of better, scientifically documented results, achievable whit Ivermectin at around $3. Also posted on a you tube clip
The safety profile of Ivermectin is documented over 5.6 Billion doses to be much better than Ibuprofen, but no one is stopping me to get as much Ibuprofen I can over the counter.
All evidence I have seen against Ivermectin is on the same category as that BBC waste of tax payer money.

It works or it may not The question you have to ask is why Chris Witty does not come clean on way or one other?

If the Fauci virus did not originate from a lab where did it came from? It is Endemic to the human race! Where Endemic by definition means limited to and only found in Humans!
Again so far there is no clear-cut evidence and again the question to ask is why this has not been properly researched?
It may take times and it may be swept under the carpet as we seen again and again of late Do you remember that Fucking Useless MP that got away whit it whit a kiss?

Again how is it possible that the Vaccine was advertised 2 days after the official virus genome sequencing was carried out?
The question you have to ask is that if the virus escaped the lab how much did they know about it?

Did same one decided to cull the most vulnerable and useless part of the population? how else would you explain the throwing out of old peoples from hospital in order to free beds!
Did same one decided to promote the spread of the virus? How else would you explain the "Nike" conference?

The all of the system is rotten and society has changed! see how easy it was for one of the richest nation on earth to run out of petrol due to same minor scare mongering initiated by the media.

The same media that was the only balance we had against a corrupted and incompetent government!!!

What to do but write a complaint letter about that article to the BBC watch dog?

[Stryder5]

Imo there should be both Vaccines and cure and prophylactic

The evidence that Ivermectin may work is out there as I keep posting and as on that latest Dr Campbell clip
Merks has a new drug going for medical trials it will cost around $700 instead of better, scientifically documented results, achievable whit Ivermectin at around $3. Also posted on a you tube clip
The safety profile of Ivermectin is documented over 5.6 Billion doses to be much better than Ibuprofen, but no one is stopping me to get as much Ibuprofen I can over the counter.
All evidence I have seen against Ivermectin is on the same category as that BBC waste of tax payer money.

It works or it may not The question you have to ask is why Chris Witty does not come clean on way or one other?

If the Fauci virus did not originate from a lab where did it came from? It is Endemic to the human race! Where Endemic by definition means limited to and only found in Humans!
Again so far there is no clear-cut evidence and again the question to ask is why this has not been properly researched?
It may take times and it may be swept under the carpet as we seen again and again of late Do you remember that Fucking Useless MP that got away whit it whit a kiss?

Again how is it possible that the Vaccine was advertised 2 days after the official virus genome sequencing was carried out?
The question you have to ask is that if the virus escaped the lab how much did they know about it?

Did same one decided to cull the most vulnerable and useless part of the population? how else would you explain the throwing out of old peoples from hospital in order to free beds!
Did same one decided to promote the spread of the virus? How else would you explain the "Nike" conference?

The all of the system is rotten and society has changed! see how easy it was for one of the richest nation on earth to run out of petrol due to same minor scare mongering initiated by the media.

The same media that was the only balance we had against a corrupted and incompetent government!!!

What to do but write a complaint letter about that article to the BBC watch dog?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34513523/

Gary