+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17

Thread: 401 Bearing Recommendations Please

  1. #1
    Join Date: Nov 2017

    Location: Midlands, UK

    Posts: 174
    I'm Kim.

    Default 401 Bearing Recommendations Please

    My lovely Garrard 401 now benefits from a Tenuto platter mat and Mk 1 LDA power supply - the PS in particular produced a positive improvement. I'd like to try a new bearing next and was interested in member's opinions. The previous thread about this didn't seem to reach any conclusions, so not really expecting agreement on "the best", but would be keen to hear member's own experiences.

    The Peak HiFi SMD Acoustics bearing is readily available - has anyone had any experierience of fitting one of these?

    Martin Bastin's name keeps coming up in relation to Garrards, but I can't find any information - can anyone help?

    Anything else I should consider?

    Many thanks
    Time flies like and arrow.
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  2. #2
    Join Date: Dec 2010

    Location: North Lincs

    Posts: 169
    I'm Keith.

    Default

    These on Lenco Heaven seem to get good reports but I have no experience of them.

    https://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/in...?topic=25857.0

  3. #3
    Join Date: Nov 2010

    Location: Yorkshire

    Posts: 8,115
    I'm AnDreW.

    Default

    I've had the SPH bearing, the standard 401 bearing and the modified Martin Bastin 401 bearing (this is the best). You can spend some silly money on bearings which have never been reviewed and I'd avoid the ebay modifications (kokomo).
    SS

    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU+Dorado DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE

    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modified) AMP Sondex S100 (Modified) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECKS Garrard301/401 (Bastin) Mat Teunto Bearings 401/SPH Plinth Moldovan/Bastin Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) SME V 12 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister v2 / Royall N SPU's CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker 10mm Cu + WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box Modded) / EAR 834 Clone (modded)

    REAL SOUND


    PRE Radford SC25 (Mullard ECC83/82) POWER RADFORD STA25 Renaissance (Electroharmonix EL34) SPEAKERS Celestion Ditton 15 (Duelund Rewired/Jantzen Recapped) CABLES Speaker - Duelund AWG 12IC - Belden 8402+Switchcraft RCA



  4. #4
    Join Date: Oct 2014

    Location: Surrey

    Posts: 372
    I'm Graham.

    Default

    I have had the exact bearing (avoid), kokomo mk2, sph but not a bastin.

    The SPH is good vfm and is a little quieter and spins very freely. It is not a night and day improvement over the stock bearing in good fettle (and i am not sure its delrin bushes will last 50 years!), but I take the view that every little bit helps. In conjunction with the Tenuto mat, LDA PSU, Audiosilente idler, IMO it is significantly better than in stock form.

    It has lost non of the Garrard strengths (drive, punchy bass, rhythm and that elusive musicality) but its weaker areas - veiled treble and speed stability - are no longer an issue.

    Of course, all these mods are not cheap. but for my musical tastes i cannot think of a deck I would prefer to own regardless of price.

  5. #5
    Join Date: Oct 2011

    Location: Bangkok

    Posts: 24
    I'm Pete.

    Default

    Hello Kim

    I have neither a PSU upgrade nor an exotic platter mat, however my 401 does have a bearing upgrade. It was organised by the wonderful people at NWA, made by the Jeremy guy originally known for his Lenco bearings under the Redbeard name (there are loads of threads on his bearings over on lencoheaven but you may already know that).

    The bearing is aesthetically very pleasing, dare I say luxurious, and undoubtedly well engineered, it certainly looks far more impressive than the currently available SMD bearing or stock bearing.

    Sonically, I've never tried to compare it to the well-fettled standard bearing it replaced, so I can't really say whether I'd recommend it or not, sorry, I realise that's not much use to you.

    Anyways, I believe NWA stopped supplying this bearing some years ago and developed their own. I think most of their work is focused around carts these days but it may be worth asking.

    Good luck with the search!
    Last edited by ost_; 26-01-2020 at 04:57.
    Analogue: Garrard 401 (NWA), NWA slate plinth, Redbeard bearing, SME IV, Dynavector XX-2 MkII, Pathos In The Groove Mk II. Digital: Self built PC, RME HDSPe MADI PCIe card, Mytek 8x192 ADDA & MADI DIO card. Other: Shadow Hills Equinox, ATC SCM50ASL Pro, Towersonic TS-1B, Analysis Plus Power Oval & XLR ic, Sine SRT-3KV, Sine SA-6, Sine Royal 2S

  6. #6
    Join Date: Jun 2010

    Location: Bucharest

    Posts: 1,039
    I'm Geoff.

    Default

    Personally, I would stick with the stock bearing and invest in more music or developing your system elsewhere.
    Main system: Sony TTS8000; SME IV; Audio Technica Art1; Denon PMA-850; SBT; Technics sh-x1000 DAC; Yamaha NS1000.
    System 2 - SBT; Kinshaw Perception DAC; Lentek and Klark Teknik Jade 1 studio monitors

  7. #7
    Join Date: Oct 2011

    Location: Bangkok

    Posts: 24
    I'm Pete.

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by oldius View Post
    Personally, I would stick with the stock bearing and invest in more music or developing your system elsewhere.
    Totally agree wise words Oldius!
    Analogue: Garrard 401 (NWA), NWA slate plinth, Redbeard bearing, SME IV, Dynavector XX-2 MkII, Pathos In The Groove Mk II. Digital: Self built PC, RME HDSPe MADI PCIe card, Mytek 8x192 ADDA & MADI DIO card. Other: Shadow Hills Equinox, ATC SCM50ASL Pro, Towersonic TS-1B, Analysis Plus Power Oval & XLR ic, Sine SRT-3KV, Sine SA-6, Sine Royal 2S

  8. #8
    Join Date: Nov 2017

    Location: Midlands, UK

    Posts: 174
    I'm Kim.

    Default

    Many thanks for all the comments.

    Oldius - I really am thinking about your suggestion Geoff and I know it probably makes more financial sense, but the urge to tinker is strong! Money towards the cartridge upgrade perhaps...
    ost_ - I have read about the NWA bearing, but as you say, heard it was no longer available. I will ask
    Rexton - Thanks Andrew, but I still can't find any information for Martin Bastin - how do I find out about his bearing?
    Time flies like and arrow.
    Fruit flies like a banana.

  9. #9
    Join Date: Nov 2014

    Location: Birmingham

    Posts: 88
    I'm Michael.

    Default

    Martin Bastin can be contacted at 01584 823446. My 401’s bearing was supplied by Martin as part of a full service. You will have to send the 401 to him.
    He can also supply a replacement idler.

  10. #10
    Join Date: Nov 2017

    Location: Midlands, UK

    Posts: 174
    I'm Kim.

    Default

    Thatís helpful - thank you


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Time flies like and arrow.
    Fruit flies like a banana.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •