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    Biggest issue I have with streaming it the majority of artists earn hardly any money at $0.008 per stream! Where as in the old days artists could make money selling LPs or Cds now everyone wants their music for nothing!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    No UPnp, connectivity problems, metadata issues and constant updating and manipulation of stored library.
    Not noticed anything library wise so far. It connected to my rpi surprisingly without me doing anything. Just sees it as an endpoint. Not sure how it does it tho. I presumed it was upnp or the like.
    Phone is fine after a sticky start re the ip's.
    Connection to my other laptop is good too. Very quick.
    If course its on a fairly recent bug update so it might not always been that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Biggest issue I have with streaming it the majority of artists earn hardly any money at $0.008 per stream! Where as in the old days artists could make money selling LPs or Cds now everyone wants their music for nothing!!
    I think it is actually less than that on Spotify, $0.00437 according to The Guardian. So Ed Sheehan has earned $8.74m from “Shape of You” from Spotify alone, and added to his Tidal income for that one song, who pay $0.0125 per stream, he’s doing ok.

    I do take your point though, that less successful artists won’t be doing so well - but on the other hand, once a track is there, it will forever be a potential source of constant income. If an artist has 10 published tracks that get 10,000 plays a month average, they would be earning $4,370 a month. This is where I think the subscription model works as I said earlier, if I buy a CD and play it once the earnings for the artist are the same as for my favourites that have been played hundreds of times, so isn’t the new model fairer to all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_UK View Post
    I think it is actually less than that on Spotify, $0.00437 according to The Guardian. So Ed Sheehan has earned $8.74m from “Shape of You” from Spotify alone, and added to his Tidal income for that one song, who pay $0.0125 per stream, he’s doing ok.

    I do take your point though, that less successful artists won’t be doing so well - but on the other hand, once a track is there, it will forever be a potential source of constant income. If an artist has 10 published tracks that get 10,000 plays a month average, they would be earning $4,370 a month. This is where I think the subscription model works as I said earlier, if I buy a CD and play it once the earnings for the artist are the same as for my favourites that have been played hundreds of times, so isn’t the new model fairer to all?
    At $0.004 per track x 10,000 x 10 = $400? You also picked Ed sheeran who is probably the most played artist out there and yes there are quite a few at the top, but there are many many more(the majority) of artists who don't earn anywhere near this!

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    That’ll teach me to try and do maths after half a bottle of wine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_UK View Post
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    Ed sheeran.. Don't think I've heard any of his stuff. Maybe fortunate there
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Ed sheeran.. Don't think I've heard any of his stuff. Maybe fortunate there
    Hi is quite popular at the moment but not my cup of tea.
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    Never see the point in going back to CD. I see nothing to be nostalgic about it. Crap plastic cases, crap little booklets and and shiny discs hidden in a drawer of a big overpriced metal box. At one point, yes, cd sounded better than streaming but with services offering higher resolution, broadband getting faster and dacs getting more popular (and cheaper if you want to look at china), then who really wants to go back to CD ????

    I don't see anything from CD that I can't get from a good streaming service as well as access to a huge amount of music.

    Vinyl is a bit different as that is a more physical, tactile and nostalgic format and turntables are things of beauty (imo of course).

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