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    I noticed the mention of first CD ever mass-produced in America, Born in the USA, I always thought it was Abba Arrival!

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    Bob Ludwig's (and I mastered the first CD ever mass-produced in America, Born in the USA) idea of a well mastered recording and my own must be different.

    I have one of the very early copies of this CD, only the second I bought back in the 80's, and I rarely play it it's so bright. Goodness knows where the bass finished up.

    I have good and bad CD's, the same as I have good and bad LP's so I'm way past the CD vs Vinyl debate. In my view it's not the medium, rather more the expertise of the recording and mastering engineer that makes for a standout product. Take a listen to some of the stuff Giles Martin has done with the original (and old) Beatles recordings. He couldn't change the way they were recorded but he sure changed the end result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob4333 View Post
    Bob Ludwig's (and I mastered the first CD ever mass-produced in America, Born in the USA) idea of a well mastered recording and my own must be different.

    I have one of the very early copies of this CD, only the second I bought back in the 80's, and I rarely play it it's so bright. Goodness knows where the bass finished up.
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    It's a pop record though and had lots of singles on it so maybe it was mastered for radio play? They don't like too much bass on the radio.

    I've only got it on vinyl so can't compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob4333 View Post
    Take a listen to some of the stuff Giles Martin has done with the original (and old) Beatles recordings. He couldn't change the way they were recorded but he sure changed the end result.
    Yes, and it's debatable whether that 'end result' is as good as the original pressings (when played in mint condition)... Mono, done well, can be superb

    Don't get me wrong, I rate the Giles Martin remasters highly, but for me they lack the 'rawness', sonically, of the originals (essential for this type of music to sound real), due to their rough edges having been a little too 'well polished'. IMO, the resulting sound is just a little too 'sanitised'.

    I own numerous examples of both, so can carry out quick comparisons, and for me, there's still nothing to touch the originals, accurately conveying the essence of The Beatles 'sound'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, and it's debatable whether that 'end result' is as good as the original pressings (when played in mint condition)... Mono, done well, can be superb

    Don't get me wrong, I rate the Giles Martin remasters highly, but for me they lack the 'rawness', sonically, of the originals (essential for this type of music to sound real), due to their rough edges having been a little too 'well polished'. IMO, the resulting sound is just a little too 'sanitised'.

    I own numerous examples of both, so can carry out quick comparisons, and for me, there's still nothing to touch the originals, accurately conveying the essence of The Beatles 'sound'

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    Exactly... So for me, robbing recordings of that 'sound' does not make them better, regardless of whether the end result is more sonically appealing to audiophiles

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    Think we have been over this before in that original Beatles stuff was mastered to be replayed on fairly low quality gear and still sound ok. More folk now either listen on higher quality gear or in many cases headphones from their phones. hence the stereo imaging is much more centraland of course the loudness up(imo too far up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Made in 1968 View Post
    I noticed the mention of first CD ever mass-produced in America, Born in the USA, I always thought it was Abba Arrival!
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    "The first commercial compact disc was produced on 17 August 1982. It was a recording from 1979 of Claudio Arrau performing Chopin waltzes (Philips 400 025-2). Arrau was invited to the Langenhagen plant to press the start button. The first popular music CD produced at the new factory was The Visitors (1981) by ABBA."

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    No doubt the very first CD produced of the Chopin waltzes was given to Arrau to mark the occasion.
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