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Thoughts on fitting the MD500 from the 66 in the 44?
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I believed the mid on the 44 wasn't as good as it could have been. i.e. The weakest link or the poorest performing part of the speaker. As i'll be stripping these down on Wednesday to completely refurbish I though it would be a feasible option to swap it if I can source a decent pair for a good price. I assume the crossover would need titivating slightly with this option too.
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But your doing the mod thing, if the design dont sound right get a different pair of speakers.. 44's are what they are why i dont like em.. Keep telling people the '33's were best
Andre is correct swapping different drivers changes the 44. You won't have a pair of 44's with different drivers.
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I agree the mid range driver is the weak point.
I sort of also agree with Andre that the 44 is what it is and if you want a better speaker just buy a better speaker. But if you're going to mod them then doing that for fun and as a learning experience are perfectly valid reasons in my book.
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I'm not saying it doesn't sound right, it's about trying to sort a know issue with an otherwise great speaker. Call it a restomod if you like. Mixing old and new technology sympathetically whilst trying to stay true to the original sound. This is why I was asking about the mid from the 66 rather than a modern speaker. Same thing goes for the tweeter recommendation that came in an earlier post. I appreciate the input and suggestion but fitting a modern speaker into an old cabinet with speakers from another decade doesn't appeal to me.
Can you explain the effect it would have on the sound?
Well in a word , no! The only way to assess the effects on the sound is to install your drivers and then see how they sound. You will also need to make sure that your XO is correctly updated which may mean dicking around with cap values. Your opening up a can of worms!!
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Can of worms indeed. & there is at least two variation of the Brown point to point X Overs to me knowing..