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    Really useful articles. Had fancied these, but.....may stick to my modded PS 1,(though THAT has packed up, needs fixing).
    Other choice is probably OPPO?
    I guess tech can fail!
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    I have one of these too - as you say, awesome little players - but mine suffered laser failure too and is currently at the tech trying to source a laser....fingers crossed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb View Post
    I have one of these too - as you say, awesome little players - but mine suffered laser failure too and is currently at the tech trying to source a laser....fingers crossed!
    I feel you're pain Robin. Such a shame with these and a common theme, the lasers tend to go like clock work which hurts big time as the lasers are almost impossible to get hold of now.

    My learning is that lasers generally have a life expectancy of about 15/20 years or so - generally. The 91 is pushing 30 years now.

    Buying these and most vintage CDPs is a risk then to be honest, but what a beautiful and fab sounding CDP, I was thrilled at the sound, when I got to playing mine.

    I defo want a laser or indeed another fully working 91......
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    Hey Robbie

    If/when the tech sources one I'll lyk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb View Post
    Hey Robbie

    If/when the tech sources one I'll lyk!
    Robin, I would also be interested in the outcome, as I might want a spare one if mine packs up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb View Post
    Hey Robbie

    If/when the tech sources one I'll lyk!
    Thanks and please Robin, that would be great, especially if another/more can be sourced - one can only hope
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    Hi all

    As feared these are now unobtanium. Anyone considering buying one of these should know that the lasers fail after 20 years and are now impossible to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    I feel you're pain Robin. Such a shame with these and a common theme, the lasers tend to go like clock work which hurts big time as the lasers are almost impossible to get hold of now.

    My learning is that lasers generally have a life expectancy of about 15/20 years or so - generally. The 91 is pushing 30 years now.

    Buying these and most vintage CDPs is a risk then to be honest, but what a beautiful and fab sounding CDP, I was thrilled at the sound, when I got to playing mine.

    I defo want a laser or indeed another fully working 91......
    https://www.eeshops.net/laser-lens-d...s-p-73672.html

    or NOS not cheap though

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    ...which anyone considering buying one should take into account...

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    Personally speaking, given the (non)availability of parts if something goes wrong with vintage CD players, I wouldn't want the potential worry.

    Getting back into CDs for some weird reason, and took a punt on one of these.
    New Audiolab CD Transport.



    After reading a lot of very positive reviews took a punt.
    Sounds way better than it has a right to at the price
    Had it a few days, already sounding better than my modded 203 over i2s on Redbook CD.
    Hooked up with a Wireworld Starlight 8 digital coax.

    If it keeps improving the way it is I might invest in a more 'serious' digital cable.
    Genuinely a bit taken aback by how this thing sounds, and not just for the price.
    Say again, it beats my Oppo for enjoying CDs.

    Wouldn't look at an old CD Player as a transport when this is around.
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