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    In the early 80's i noticed a sudden decline in LP sound quality etc, basically downgrading a good format. No suprise that CD was on the take over. With all the promotion of CD being apparently fantastic, the best thing sinces sliced bread..Scratch em, put your fags out on em, even wipe your arse on em they will still play, No Crackles, Pops or distortion un like on a record.

    Nowadays that so called poor sounding Vinyl format is the in thing again, Masses of stuff is being pressed, CD is on its last legs etc etc, Like a total reverse of back when CD was becoming fash

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    Except that much of the new vinyl is still crap, but for different reasons.
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    or even albums that are advertised as 180g but when you weigh them they turn out to be 165g
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    I call em CD's on vinyl. The thing is they have that many issues you may as well buy the CD..

    Good old Greg you tell em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Made in 1968 View Post
    In the early 80's i noticed a sudden decline in LP sound quality etc, basically downgrading a good format. No suprise that CD was on the take over. With all the promotion of CD being apparently fantastic, the best thing sinces sliced bread..Scratch em, put your fags out on em, even wipe your arse on em they will still play, No Crackles, Pops or distortion un like on a record.

    Nowadays that so called poor sounding Vinyl format is the in thing again, Masses of stuff is being pressed, CD is on its last legs etc etc, Like a total reverse of back when CD was becoming fash

    My understanding from what I have been told is there are various reasons.

    • Poor source material i.e. not the original master and worse of all an old and not very good digital master from the first CD version.
    • Using a digital re-mix that has been done for modern on the go listening with headphones, which has serious compression and loss of dynamics as a result.
    • Lack of care by the engineer when cutting the new acetate, or even in-experienced.
    • Re-cycled vinyl used that has not had the paper labels removed properly before being melted down.
    • Too much carbon added to the vinyl, causing high levels of static on playback.


    I expect that there are many other reasons as well. Having said all that I have some very new vinyl from new artists and also some re-releases that are great, but it is a bit of a lottery, I try and go by recommended re-releases from friends or magazines(not always accurate though). If I can I try and source original pressings that are NM.
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    I think I'm just about to give up on new vinyl.

    In December/January I bought 5 new records and 6 used records in EX/NM condition (from the 70s or earlier).

    Out of 5 new records, one is slightly decentered on both sides, one is severely decentered on one side, one is severely warped and one is warped and decentered. 1 out of 5 is good.

    6 used records: 5 are perfect, 1 is ever so slightly warped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovel_Knight View Post
    I think I'm just about to give up on new vinyl.

    In December/January I bought 5 new records and 6 used records in EX/NM condition.

    Out of 5 new records, one is slightly decentered on both sides, one is severely decentered on one side, one is severely warped and one is warped and decentered. 1 out of 5 is good.

    6 used records: 5 are perfect, 1 is ever so slightly warped.
    Strange and annoying, I have not experienced that level of poor quality, I have one record from Mondo, Prometheus (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack), annoyingly there are some clicks on side 3 which is due to poorly re-cycled vinyl.
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    If you know goid secondhand sellers at least you know they have been tested/checked.
    New can be a lottery, and some unscrupulous sellers could sell returns again by resealing them.
    When I bought second hand I had a few good sellers I could rely on
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
    Strange and annoying, I have not experienced that level of poor quality, I have one record from Mondo, Prometheus (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack), annoyingly there are some clicks on side 3 which is due to poorly re-cycled vinyl.
    It was some really bad luck. 2 records went back to Amazon, the rest were unfortunately bought online while I was on vacation, so I have to live with them. The slightly decentered one plays OK since it doesn't contain any piano music, and the warped one is playable with a clamp.

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    My last new Vinyl buys before i jacked in last time was the Pink Floyd albums. Out of the twelve i bought the same amount went back for exchange.

    In addition to that i just could not hack the sound of them, they sounded no different to the same editions on CD with added noise, which seems a very odd thing to do adding noise & distortion on to what is suppose to be a perfectly clear digital programme .So people who say they sound great is just the same impression they would get from the same the CD.. Other factors are things like The first three of their albums had back flap construction, this detail has obviously been recognised but just printed on the back of the sleeves as an imitation . They cannot be arsed to construct the sleeves properly to make this detail close to the original. Charge a couple quid more ffks & do a real job. However the D.S.O.T.M, W.Y.W.H , Animals & The Wall sleeves & labels are good but again the sound is very CD to my ears, they even had the very same glitches i can hear on the CD versions .. & because of that it has to be original Analogue pressings from now..

    I doubt im wrong if i say the largest percentage of new record buyers are younger people that have never bought a pre CD all analogue vinyl pressing in their lives.. Call it hip to own vinyl but in all truth they are listening to what is nothing but a CD behind a vinyl smoke screen. If these new vinyls never existed you can bet your bottom dollar they would not be buying old Vinyls because they would not hack the sound compared to CD.

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