Somrthing has got me !

**Stryder5** · 17-01-2020, 08:53

Originally Posted by Sherwood

Would you consider the World Health Organization and the National Institute for Clinical Excellence to be reliable sources?

https://www.nice.org.uk/Media/Defaul...resistance.pdf

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...istance-crisis

They draw from this 2016 study https://amr-review.org/sites/default...th%20cover.pdf

Of course antibiotics are a major lifesaver worldwide. The point is that poor prescribing and compliance risk a major failure of antibiotic effectiveness so that current antibiotics may be all but useless in a matter of decades.

The answer to your question is NO. Read my previous text.

Gary

**Marco** · 17-01-2020, 09:12

Guys, can we all chill out a bit please? I don't like the aggressive/combative tone of some of the posts here, simply because someone is failing to think how you want them to think, so please learn to express your opinion on the subject without the need to 'lecture'. Cheers!

Marco.

**dave2010** · 17-01-2020, 09:55

Originally Posted by Marco

Guys, can we all chill out a bit please? I don't like the aggressive/combative tone of some of the posts here, simply because someone is failing to think how you want them to think, so please learn to express your opinion on the subject without the need to 'lecture'. Cheers!

Marco.

Hi - I didn't think we'd started a war! I just wanted to help Al to get better.

Many drugs/antibiotics can be obtained via the internet - I'm told, so it's not always necessary to go do UK doctors. This is not advised, but it happens. Also some people come from other home countries, or have friends there, and get drugs/antibiotics from them.

Is that really you in the new avatar - or some other smart fellah?

bws

**Stryder5** · 17-01-2020, 10:18

Originally Posted by Marco

Guys, can we all chill out a bit please? I don't like the aggressive/combative tone of some of the posts here, simply because someone is failing to think how you want them to think, so please learn to express your opinion on the subject without the need to 'lecture'. Cheers!

Marco.

I’m probably as much to blame as anyone I’ll refrain......

**Stryder5** · 17-01-2020, 10:23

Originally Posted by dave2010

Hi - I didn't think we'd started a war! I just wanted to help Al to get better.

Many drugs/antibiotics can be obtained via the internet - I'm told, so it's not always necessary to go do UK doctors. This is not advised, but it happens. Also some people come from other home countries, or have friends there, and get drugs/antibiotics from them.

Is that really you in the new avatar - or some other smart fellah?

bws

It can’t be Marco it looks......almost human.

**struth** · 17-01-2020, 10:33

Too many antibiotics have been prescribed in past, no doubt but in Al's case im inclined to think Conjunctivitis, and if its thick yellow then the bacterial version, and needed them.. Doc was maybe too keen to not prescribe. Used to have a warrior in my wifes practice whos attitude was for pretty much anything, "just get back to work".. or "nothing to worry about".
Go to another doc and they got worried.. nothing was ever done about him as far as I know and he is still dishing out his wisdom.
When my oldest went complaining that he was hearing voices etc, he was told to get a job.... he hung himself later that week..

**Sherwood** · 17-01-2020, 10:43

Originally Posted by struth

Too many antibiotics have been prescribed in past, no doubt but in Al's case im inclined to think Conjunctivitis, and if its thick yellow then the bacterial version, and needed them.. Doc was maybe too keen to not prescribe. Used to have a warrior in my wifes practice whos attitude was for pretty much anything, "just get back to work".. or "nothing to worry about".
Go to another doc and they got worried.. nothing was ever done about him as far as I know and he is still dishing out his wisdom.
When my oldest went complaining that he was hearing voices etc, he was told to get a job.... he hung himself later that week..

The NHS has issued revised antibiotic prescribing guidelines to limit overprescribing. Evidence based prescribing now favours the much more cautious use of antibiotics. It has also embarked upon a national health education campaign with TV commercials aimed at changing patient knowledge, attitudes and practices. It is still early days and there are massive regional variations in the number and type of antibiotics prescribed. Unfortunately, too many gps ignore the new guidelines and faced with huge patient workload succumb to patient pressure to prescribe.

**walpurgis** · 17-01-2020, 11:03

Originally Posted by walpurgis

Strange that you don't hear any mention of Bacteriophage and Virophage research these days.

They were once anticipated to be of huge ultimate benefit in tackling infectious deseases. Maybe there is work being done in this area, but I'm not aware of it. I know the Russians were very involved years ago.

Effective phages could certainly compliment antibiotic treatment and possibly supersede it in some aspects.

It seems nobody had a clue what I was getting at.

This may be enlightening: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/art...ibiotic-crisis

**Marco** · 17-01-2020, 11:05

Originally Posted by dave2010

Hi - I didn't think we'd started a war! I just wanted to help Al to get better.

Is that really you in the new avatar - or some other smart fellah?

Indeed, no 'wars', please. Just helpful and constructive advice.

As for the latter, read my signature!

I look about 20 years younger...

Marco.

**Marco** · 17-01-2020, 11:06

Originally Posted by Stryder5

It can’t be Marco it looks......almost human.

Hahaha... You reckon? I plucked it from a magazine for SAGA holidays

Marco.

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