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    https://www.stereophile.com/content/...ew-garrard-301

    'Cadence now continues to manufacture Loricraft record-cleaning machines, but has shut down Loricraft's repair and restoration business, as well as their business of commissioning and supplying spare parts for the 301 and 401. According to Shirke, the Cadence Group will make spare 301 parts available to purchasers of new Garrard 301s, as needed.' Art Dudley

    'Garrard is back. The new owners have not only bought the name but have also earned the right to use it (from here on there'll be no more SME this and Cadence Group that when writing about the contemporary 301)' Art Dudley

    Price and value Art is not willing to talk about, but the price for what is here, imho, is simply ridiculous and makes Audio Grail and the Classic Record Companies products now look much better value, but will Cadence go after these companies to stop them. With Loricraft gone the new spares market will have a much higher price, Cadence/SME's greed already established.

    Curious what others think about this. Potentially a good thing for AG and CRC, and other Garrard restorers/plinth builders, if Cadence don't shut them down.
    Regards Neil

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    It's not hard to restore these decks. More business for AG & CRC when you see the crazy prices they want for a refurbed 301.
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    If you own a 301 or 401, you can do with it what you will. You are free to sell it on to whom you see fit.

    There is nothing SME/Cadence can do about it. The only thing they own is the Garrard name, logo and trademark; so you would not be able to have new labels made as it is copyright.

    There are plenty of wealthy customers in Asia and the Middle East who will easily be able to afford the absurd charges being asked by SME. They are only interested in the name; performance and value for money mean nothing to them. SME/Cadence are aspiring to Veblen status, almost to the exclusion of former reputation.
    Barry

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    What happens to my 5 year PRC 3 guarantee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    SME/Cadence are aspiring to Veblen status, almost to the exclusion of former reputation.
    He means that they being very very greedy at the expense (do you like the pun) of people being caught up in the 301 Euphoria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    What happens to my 5 year PRC 3 guarantee
    I believe that Loricraft still deal with the record cleaner side of things so you and I should be ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfonzo View Post
    I believe that Loricraft still deal with the record cleaner side of things so you and I should be ok
    Not according to that review, Loricraft no longer exist, so I guess Cadence might honour the warranty, you will need to ask.
    Regards Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral Morn View Post
    https://www.stereophile.com/content/...ew-garrard-301

    'Cadence now continues to manufacture Loricraft record-cleaning machines, but has shut down Loricraft's repair and restoration business, as well as their business of commissioning and supplying spare parts for the 301 and 401. According to Shirke, the Cadence Group will make spare 301 parts available to purchasers of new Garrard 301s, as needed.' Art Dudley
    Not sure I like the part where he says 'the Cadence Group will make spare 301 parts available to purchasers of NEW Garrard 301s'.

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    That is correct, I spoke to a senior SME guy at the Ascot show and they are not making spare parts available to Joe public ☹ . An opportunity lost as it would bring some economies of scale to the business benefitting new buyers too.

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    The cost of the parts will be SME expensive.
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