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  1. #1
    Join Date: Sep 2018

    Location: Estonia

    Posts: 94
    I'm Veiko.

    Default Calling all streamers

    Hello!

    I recently bought Onkyo NS-6170 network player for about 570 euros.
    I got all fired up also thanks to this man Hans Beekhuyzen and his youtube video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT_rHAKSfhg

    It is said, the sound quality is very very good, and I have no problem with that anyway.

    HOWEVER, the frigging thing takes forever to connect to services and to actually start playing music.
    Yeah, even to get access to the external hard-drive, which is always connected, it takes a solid
    1-2 minutes to be able to browse files on it and play them. And also - Google play music, Tidal,
    Deezer, Youtube Music, Spotify. They all take forever to connect to the Onkyo.
    I tried all of these hoping one of them will be faster, but no. Also, design of these apps tends to suck
    anyway, apart from GPM, which has a good design, but then again "errors" the most. Onkyo's own app
    is also pretty bad.

    I do encourage you to tell me about your experiences with streamers, perhaps you can suggest me
    something that you use, and that works good and fast. And also - may be you also have this Onkyo
    or NS-6130, and what is YOUR experience with it?

    As for now, for user friendliness, I would NOT recommend this equipment.


    Thank you for your time!

    Veiko

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    Join Date: Oct 2008

    Location: Glasgowshire

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    I'm Gary.

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    Something definitely not right with your unit, this isn’t normal and a thing other people talk about.
    Maybe try a factory reset?
    https://www.manualslib.com/manual/14...0.html?page=26
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
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    Join Date: Feb 2013

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    I'm Grant.

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    might be an ip problem
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  4. #4
    Join Date: Sep 2018

    Location: Estonia

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    I'm Veiko.

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    Thank you guys.

    I kinda reached some success with this Tidal, which now I have chosen to use and pay for.

    My own hard-drive catalogue is harder to reach, and I kinda feel, it sounds lesser, if it makes any sense. So Tidal hi-fi for now, bigger selection, though a lot of internet use. And yes, it sometimes still disconnects and drives me on the edge.

    Thank you again.

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    Join Date: Sep 2018

    Location: Estonia

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    I'm Veiko.

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    However. Having explored the Tidal app further I realized I have an option to play some music with Master quality,
    mqa files, as I understand. Also, the streamer (NS-6170) was advertised as mqa capable, so it looked good.
    However. If I set music quality to MASTER it disconnects me from the Onkyo streamer and continues music only on the phone.
    As I then reconnect to Onkyo streamer, it automatically switches quality from Master to Hi-Fi.
    Now something fishy is going on here. I contacted onkyo and also Tidal, and at the moment I am waiting for their answers,
    hoping for some kind of solution. I have done the offered updates of course.

    On the Youtube, there is a user "Billys Ekso" who has uploaded many videos of mqa files being streamed from Tidal to the same
    Onkyo model, NS-6170. So I do hope to hear some useful feedback from Onkyo.
    Your comments are very welcome, as well.

    Thank you!

  6. #6
    Join Date: Sep 2018

    Location: Estonia

    Posts: 94
    I'm Veiko.

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    I got it sorted out. Turns out to stream mqa files I only can use Onkyo controller app linked to Tidal, and NOT the Tidal app itself.
    So it works and it sounds awesome. Thou it takes a lot of internet.

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