Running an MC cartridge into 47K with no added gain

[oceanobsession]

Hi again , my speakers are 90db ish and my ming da 805 monoblocks needs 3/4 volume on the tisbury for 70 db lisening level , the valab lcr is the
current one on ebay , oh sorry i meant cadenza blue . if you set up the valab the same as me dont it give you excesive volume , im also building a dave slagle avc
and my system seems to like the volume pot open for best sound , but it still depends what ohms your cartridge likes , and my cadenza blue likes 200 ohms , the bronze likes 50 ohms , so it could work with the bronze , phil.

[Mike Reed]

If I remember the MC25 (my friend had one), it had a very healthy output; for a l.o. m/coil, that is. Don't know your amplification ststem, so can't comment further.

[martinswimmer]

If I remember the MC25 (my friend had one), it had a very healthy output; for a l.o. m/coil, that is. Don't know your amplification ststem, so can't comment further.

I think it's not the lowest outputting MC @ 0.5Mv but I've got a VDH Mc One, Shelter 901, Supex 1000, Entre Mc-1 - so will try them all over the weekend and see what happens.
I have plenty of gain with this but when I run the input into my S-VHS Hifi machine that I use for recording - it doesn't register anything on VU Metres. So, this anomaly must be down to my very sensitive speakers and relatively powerful power amplifier. I bet that a single ended EL84 won't be able to pull it off.

[JohnG]

Last night I put The New All Valve MM Phonostage into the home system.

I played the Vienna Mimic, rebuilt Ortofon K'b straight into the New MM Phonostage, and with the inbuilt Pot's wide open on the 845 Mono's, I was getting acceptable night time sound levels, and definitely sound levels that will be suited to most individuals requirements .

I have as a preference a requirement for a little more volume for certain music and day time listening, so I introduced the Slagle AVC, the result was a slight improvement in sound level, as well as a reverting to the sonic signature of the effect of the Slagle that I prefer, the sound signature that has kept the Slagle in the system for some time now .

The Slagle was still a little shy of the Sound Levels I would like to achieve, but possibly now at a level many would refer to as too loud, so it looks like I will be introducing the SUT on occasions in the future, just to achieve the extra sound level.

At present I am in Awe of the New Phonostage, and keeping the signal path free from other devices, will I hope have added to my 'Jaw Hit the Floor' moment with the new experience.
I am pleased for the info that has prompted me to use this method, and also pleased I can confirm it is working in my system producing very audible sound levels.

[martinswimmer]

Glad to hear it worked for you. Can you hear improvement in the sound on account of one less component/set of cables in the path?
I've swapped cartridges and using the Supex 0.2mv. It's working great, but now 1/4 short of the full phono stage output. I've put the load to 200 Ohms again...

[JohnG]

I will update on this question you have asked at a later date.
The Phonostage is Brand New, with Boutique Components, some it is said requiring 500+ hours burn in.
I promise to give a update on both playbacks methods, Phono Direct into Amp, or AVC > Amp vs SUT > Phonostage.
It will be a while before I report, but I will update on the New Phonostage, covering the 18 months of Journey to its final fruition.