Boris big win.

[chris@panteg]

Did Corbyn get what he deserved? I think so and his momentum nutters have destroyed the labour party and ensured a decade of hard right tory rule thanks a bunch for that.
Feel free to disagree but that's how I feel.

[struth]

as much as anything, its the you mustnt say this, that or next thing etc people who along with european idiology that has produced the hard right vote.
The Labour vote is dead now as is the party, mostly because many working class folk are wealthier, own their houses, have 2 cars etc...labour's answer was... we will go further left, not because the people want, but because they want it for the people.

snp have evolved as a party and keep evolving and look how well they do

[tapid]

as much as anything, its the you mustnt say this, that or next thing etc people who along with european idiology that has produced the hard right vote.
The Labour vote is dead now as is the party, mostly because many working class folk are wealthier, own their houses, have 2 cars etc...labour's answer was... we will go further left, not because the people want, but because they want it for the people.

snp have evolved as a party and keep evolving and look how well they do

Yeah but that contradicts the Labour shadow front bench that kept telling us about the 14m people living in poverty !. I think basically your right though.

[struth]

Yeah but that contradicts the Labour shadow front bench that kept telling us about the 14m people living in poverty !. I think basically your right though.

There are a lot on poverty line no doubt, but how many actually bother to vote these days? Many probably aren't signed up, others can't be bothered etc.
Thatchers idea of folk owning their house to trap them as non lefty labour voters worked. Labour's only successes have been new Labour which was almost leftwing tory.

[Spectral Morn]

The UK is fucked. English Nationalism has destroyed the union, Brexit will destroy the UK, everyone reading this will suffer, anyone who voted conservative, shame on you. Boris is a liar, a smoke and mirrors con man and the conservatives do not give a fuck for anyone but themselves. Did you watch what I watched, did you see and hear what I did, and still you gave them your vote.

For the rest of us we are at the mercy of little englander europhobia nationalism, Scotland will try to leave, and northern ireland had been thrown under the bus. I am scared about what will happen here, but as long as its here and not on the streets of British cities none of you who voted consevative will give a fuck.

Worst day in the history of the UK, next to brexit vote.

[Mikeandvan]

The UK is fucked. English Nationalism has destroyed the union, Brexit will destroy the UK, everyone reading this will suffer, anyone who voted conservative, shame on you. Boris is a liar, a smoke and mirrors con man and the conservatives do not give a fuck for anyone but themselves. Did you watch what I watched, did you see and hear what I did, and still you gave them your vote.

For the rest of us we are at the mercy of little englander europhobia nationalism, Scotland will try to leave, and northern ireland had been thrown under the bus. I am scared about what will happen here, but as long as its here and not on the streets of British cities none of you who voted consevative will give a fuck.

Worst day in the history of the UK, next to brexit vote.

By English Nationalism you mean Brexit, also popular in Wales...…..And Scottish and Welsh independence have long sought to 'destroy the union'. No one should feel shame for voting Tory with an opposition like Corbyn & Co. Though I agree Boris is an opportunist with no real conviction. I'm guessing you're predicting the rise of Fascism in the UK, nothing so wild will happen, Brits simply aren't up for extremism of any kind.

[tapid]

Also too many sweeties offered by Labour me thinks. If something looks to good to be true it normally is.

[Spectral Morn]

By English Nationalism you mean Brexit, also popular in Wales...…..And Scottish and Welsh independence have long sought to 'destroy the union'. No one should feel shame for voting Tory with an opposition like Corbyn & Co. Though I agree Boris is an opportunist with no real conviction. I'm guessing you're predicting the rise of Fascism in the UK, nothing so wild will happen, Brits simply aren't up for extremism of any kind.

Brexit will plunge the UK into a commercial wilderness, everything will cost more, business will fold, more will leave, unemployment will rise, food costs will rise, holidays will cost more, you will all be very much the poorer. Negotiating trade agreements will take years and will not be so favourable as the UK had. The tories are liars and con artists, they are only interested in lining their pockets and that of the very rich. The UK will not be better off outside the EU, everyone reading this will go to their graves much, much poorer than they are now.

Re Northern Ireland there will be a boarder up the Irish sea, everything will cost us more, this will damage business and put many out of business, this boarder will push the United Ireland agenda closer and the Unionists will push back. There will be a rise in murder and bombings here.

And re English Nationalism its thriving. I am sure many in 30s Germany thought as you did.

[Marco]

The UK is fucked. English Nationalism has destroyed the union, Brexit will destroy the UK, everyone reading this will suffer, anyone who voted conservative, shame on you. Boris is a liar, a smoke and mirrors con man and the conservatives do not give a fuck for anyone but themselves. Did you watch what I watched, did you see and hear what I did, and still you gave them your vote.

For the rest of us we are at the mercy of little englander europhobia nationalism, Scotland will try to leave, and northern ireland had been thrown under the bus. I am scared about what will happen here, but as long as its here and not on the streets of British cities none of you who voted consevative will give a fuck.

Worst day in the history of the UK, next to brexit vote.

Hear, hear!

Marco.

[brian2957]

The UK is fucked. English Nationalism has destroyed the union, Brexit will destroy the UK, everyone reading this will suffer, anyone who voted conservative, shame on you. Boris is a liar, a smoke and mirrors con man and the conservatives do not give a fuck for anyone but themselves. Did you watch what I watched, did you see and hear what I did, and still you gave them your vote.

For the rest of us we are at the mercy of little englander europhobia nationalism, Scotland will try to leave, and northern ireland had been thrown under the bus. I am scared about what will happen here, but as long as its here and not on the streets of British cities none of you who voted consevative will give a fuck.

Worst day in the history of the UK, next to brexit vote.

My goodness ... I couldn't have said it better myself . Well said Neil .

Hopefully there will now be an overwhelming drive for independence here in Scotland and we can take charge of our own destiny .