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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Always makes me laugh that people actually think the PM is the one doing the "Thinking"

    Boris is going to be backed by a humungous amount of specialists, the same as any PM. Boris will in fact, do very little, other than discuss strategy and relay the information given to him by said specialists, as the figurehead of this country's elected party leader.

    He has shown an adept ability of knowing when to call an election, deal with dissenters and how to get an election over the line. Something Corbyn never managed at two attempts.

    Suddenly the EU will discuss a free trade agreement, according to ITV news.

    Amazing isn't it. All of the "we're doomed" calls could be swiftly wiped off the face of the planet, should Boris get a FTA.
    Yep what pleases me most is that we just managed to get this done in time before the next generation of brainwashed youth grew up and swung a remain majority. Now we can show them that there are alternatives (that actually work) to the left wing clap trap they've been force fed by socialist teachers and lecturers, and save the country from the shithole it was looking like becoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Always makes me laugh that people actually think the PM is the one doing the "Thinking"

    Boris is going to be backed by a humungous amount of specialists, the same as any PM. Boris will in fact, do very little, other than discuss strategy and relay the information given to him by said specialists, as the figurehead of this country's elected party leader.

    He has shown an adept ability of knowing when to call an election, deal with dissenters and how to get an election over the line. Something Corbyn never managed at two attempts.

    Suddenly the EU will discuss a free trade agreement, according to ITV news.

    Amazing isn't it. All of the "we're doomed" calls could be swiftly wiped off the face of the planet, should Boris get a FTA.
    Shame he doesn't have the ability to stand up to an Andrew Neil interview. The man believes in nothing but his own ego, he switched sides in the Brexit campaign when he realised he had a chance of becoming PM. Though I of course hope that things do pan out well in our post EU economy, I don't think Boris or his cabinet are the best people for the job. The experts you refer to of course would have chosen not to leave the EU at all, or to have done it in a radically different way, May's deal would have been better for trade. And I'm sorry but as leader of our country I think it makes a huge difference that he isn't upto the job, just look at Trump and what he'd doing to the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    Yep what pleases me most is that we just managed to get this done in time before the next generation of brainwashed youth grew up and swung a remain majority. Now we can show them that there are alternatives (that actually work) to the left wing clap trap they've been force fed by socialist teachers and lecturers, and save the country from the shithole it was looking like becoming.
    Unadulterated claptrap - Britain was taken into the Common Market by the Tories.

    Basic history lessons for you young chap:

    "Sir Edward Richard George "Ted" Heath KG MBE (9 July 1916 – 17 July 2005) was a British politician who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1970 to 1974 and Leader of the Conservative Party from 1965 to 1975. Heath served 51 years as a Member of Parliament from 1950 to 2001. He was a strong supporter of the European Communities (EC), and after winning the decisive vote in the House of Commons by 336 to 244, he led the negotiations that culminated in Britain's entry into the EC on 1 January 1973. It was, says biographer John Campbell, "Heath's finest hour".[1] "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Yes, the common market. Not the United States of Europe, which it was trying to become.

    Fancy some national service for your grandkids?

    That's what was on the agenda for the EU project.

    Fancy singing the EU Nations Anthem?

    That's what was coming

    Fancy adopting the Euro?

    Guess what, that's what was next.

    The idea of the European Single Market was to help countries involved, be able to trade freely and help each other.

    What the EU is now, is nothing like that. Its a powerful organisation that rules over us, a sovereign state.


    You really believe all that hogwash don't you?

    Hilarious ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Yes, the common market. Not the United States of Europe, which it was trying to become.

    Fancy some national service for your grandkids?

    That's what was on the agenda for the EU project.

    Fancy singing the EU Nations Anthem?

    That's what was coming

    Fancy adopting the Euro?

    Guess what, that's what was next.

    The idea of the European Single Market was to help countries involved, be able to trade freely and help each other.

    What the EU is now, is nothing like that. Its a powerful organisation that rules over us, a sovereign state.
    Is this a serious perspective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Why would they not have chosen to leave?

    You can't make that assumption.

    Predictions, which is all anyone had to go off when Brexit was voted IN.

    I can predict the score of every football match and not get it right once. FFS, the pound should be sinking, according to the remain experts, but instead it's rallied and is at a high, for this year I believe.

    Truth is, no one knows how it'll turn out, which is why most experts advised against leaving. Fear.

    I'm not afraid. I have and 18, 7 and 5 year old and I'd not have voted leave if I believed for one second that they wouldn't have a future, because we left the EU.

    This Country is a world leader. Its a financial powerhouse and a place of great innovation. We will be better off, it'll just take time.
    Most economists would agree that giving up membership of a trading bloc which is also our biggest trading partner is a bad idea. Brexit wasn't about economics though, it was partly D Cameron not being able to tame the more right wing elements of his own party, and also that large parts of the UK electorate didn't think they had much to lose, that's why Brexit is mostly popular in economically depressed post industrial areas like Wales and the midlands/North of England. It was also - and this is the bit I like - a kickback against the 'experts', and political correctness, of which the EU seems to epitomise. People don't like being told what to think, and I find remainers as annoying as you seem to, even though I agree with them about not being able to see the economic benefits of leaving the EU. Some of that may sound contradictory, but Brexit isn't the black and white, in or out issue its often presented as. The thing about leaving the EU is how complicated it all is and about how much of our parliamentary time will be taken up with it, and whether in the end it will all be worth it. I do wonder what the Tories will do for those Brexit supporting areas I mentioned? Because their manifesto didn't promise much govt. investment from what I read in the papers. Having more preferential access to the Chinese middle class market would be good, as to how different that would be to what we have now I don't know.
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