Late 80s amp porn

[YNWaN]

But that wouldn't be a bad thing. After all, most of the Japanese high end models of the era were very good.

I thought they were okay - I wouldn’t say ‘very good’; they were very cerebral, all about the filigree detail and subtle nuance (like a Dynavector Ruby, or Diamond cartridges). I preferred the UK amps of the time (still do) that we’re more about the musics gestalt.

[Mikeandvan]

Hmm.... indeeed. Alternatively, it might just sound like a whole bunch of Japanese amps produced at the time...

Well you'd need to listen to a good few of them to find that out, it doesn't sound like you have! Do you still use a Nac 72 set up? I used to buy Naim but got tired of the power supplies and din leads. I'm trying a lot of new kit at the minute including valves, so keeping an open mind, I'd like to hear a Nait 1 as well sometime!

[YNWaN]

I’ve actually listened to many, many of them* - though mostly back then (Denon, Rotel, Technics etc.). The JVC is one that I have revisited more recently, though my thoughts where much the same on second introductions. In fact I was strongly reminded of what I liked, and didn’t like, about Japanese amps of the time (I ran a dealership at the time and listened daily to a broad range of British and Japanese gear).

I still use a mixture of Naim and non-Naim amplification, though much of the Naim is now non-standard. Odd connecting leads and power supplies (both hardly unique to Naim) hold no fear for me and my overall system is about as far from being a ‘one box solution’ as it’s likely to get (nine boxes of amplification and that doesn’t even include a DAC). So I guess it’s fair to say that convenience isn’t high on my priority list.

A friend still uses a Nait 1, a lovely sounding thing as long as you don’t ask too much in terms of volume (it’s only 12wpc).

* I don’t know why you would presume I hadn’t - or do you mean you don’t like my opinion? In fact I’ve not only auditioned many Japanese amps of that time, I’ve even auditioned various models within a manufacturers range!

[YNWaN]

Anyway, enjoy your new purchase - perhaps it will light your fire as it has for my friend.

[Mikeandvan]

I’ve actually listened to many, many of them* - though mostly back then (Denon, Rotel, Technics etc.). The JVC is one that I have revisited more recently, though my thoughts where much the same on second introductions. In fact I was strongly reminded of what I liked, and didn’t like, about Japanese amps of the time (I ran a dealership at the time and listened daily to a broad range of British and Japanese gear).

I still use a mixture of Naim and non-Naim amplification, though much of the Naim is now non-standard. Odd connecting leads and power supplies (both hardly unique to Naim) hold no fear for me and my overall system is about as far from being a ‘one box solution’ as it’s likely to get (nine boxes of amplification and that doesn’t even include a DAC). So I guess it’s fair to say that convenience isn’t high on my priority list.

A friend still uses a Nait 1, a lovely sounding thing as long as you don’t ask too much in terms of volume (it’s only 12wpc).

* I don’t know why you would presume I hadn’t - or do you mean you don’t like my opinion? In fact I’ve not only auditioned many Japanese amps of that time, I’ve even auditioned various models within a manufacturers range!

I took you for one of the 'Jap crap' brigade! Most of whom never got to even hear any Jap gear I would imagine if my memory of 90s British Hifi mags are correct. Of course I don't dislike anyone's opinion when it comes to hifi, its hardly political, though I know some folk get heated about cables. As I said I'm trying a lot of different stuff at the minute, so I haven't settled on what I really like as yet, don't have the luxury of two listening rooms, so will have to decide on one system, not so easy. I should make the effort to attend bake offs perhaps. I would like to end up with a suitable integrated, I really don't get the pre and power thing, if that includes a phono stage even better.

[YNWaN]

I’m not anti Japanese gear at all - I do use Yamaha speakers after all! A lot of the really good Japanese gear never made it to the UK though and we got rather ‘watered down’ versions (IMO).

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If you want to teach yourself about differing amp sound I think you are absolutely on the right track. The JVC is a great example of its type, the Nait 1* is a quite different (but equally good idea). Depending on what valve gear you try that will also give another, quite different**, presentation (oddly, some may think, I suspect you will find it closer to the Nait than to the JVC).

* Rather a cult thing these days so prices are very strong - at least you won’t lose money selling it on (assuming you do).

** Of all three amp types you mention, when it comes to valves there are valves and then there are valves (if you know what I mean) - there is a whole raft of different sound signatures just under this banner.

[Lawrence001]

I used to like Hifi World's articles on the Japanese Hifi cm scene in the 90s I think David Price was a big fan, and Noel Keyword as well. Most of the stuff they talked about was only sold in the homeland

[Mikeandvan]

I’m not anti Japanese gear at all - I do use Yamaha speakers after all! A lot of the really good Japanese gear never made it to the UK though and we got rather ‘watered down’ versions (IMO).

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If you want to teach yourself about differing amp sound I think you are absolutely on the right track. The JVC is a great example of its type, the Nait 1* is a quite different (but equally good idea). Depending on what valve gear you try that will also give another, quite different**, presentation (oddly, some may think, I suspect you will find it closer to the Nait than to the JVC).

* Rather a cult thing these days so prices are very strong - at least you won’t lose money selling it on (assuming you do).

** Of all three amp types you mention, when it comes to valves there are valves and then there are valves (if you know what I mean) - there is a whole raft of different sound signatures just under this banner.

Of course, the NS 1000s? I do wonder how my old Naim 72/140 set up would sound to me now, funny isn't it, how amps such as Naim seem to a non expert like me anyway to have so little inside them, yet they manage to compete with monsters from the Japanese manufacturers.