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    The last thing you need is a string of folk telling you their favourite speakers! I'd think you may already have a list -AND years of experience.
    AS my 'monicker' suggests, I'm with you on Horn loading, though Klipsches a bit beyond budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    That is a bit like the definition of an expert: someone who concentrates on studying an increasingly narrow field of enquiry, so that in the end the expert "knows everything there is to know about nothing at all"!.
    Something in me also thought of it as parallel to waiting for a long time for a bus.

    They are due every 15 mins, but you've been waiting for an hour and a half, and so ask yourself;
    "Does this mean no buses are ever coming due to some catastrophe, or does it mean that as soon as I decide to walk, five minutes later numerous buses will come past me.?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Not a great believer in experts. One can be 'an authority' on a subject and have very good knowledge and even have the papers to back this. But many so called experts are far from being expert at anything. I can think of a couple or more, but not naming names. In any case, nobody knows everything about anything.
    In my days as daily newspaper sub-editor, the great sage in the corner who read absolutely at everything before it went to downstairs to print had a saying that got drummed into us young chaps (all all chaps, we were, back then):

    'There are no such things as experts, only specialists'. In his world, calling someone an 'expert' was a value judgment. Calling someone a 'specialist' - if indeed that's what they were - was reporting a matter of fact, and but more to the point, expressed no particular judgment as to their actual level of expertise.

    Even 30-odd years later, I find it hard to type the word 'expert' without feeling a hand on my shoulder, a tall chap bearded behind me about to instruct me in proper usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karma67 View Post
    I could be tempted to part with my 952’s if that helps
    I thought we discussed these a while ago but you sold them to someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    In my days as daily newspaper sub-editor, the great sage in the corner who read absolutely at everything before it went to downstairs to print had a saying that got drummed into us young chaps (all all chaps, we were, back then):

    'There are no such things as experts, only specialists'. In his world, calling someone an 'expert' was a value judgment. Calling someone a 'specialist' - if indeed that's what they were - was reporting a matter of fact, and but more to the point, expressed no particular judgment as to their actual level of expertise.

    Even 30-odd years later, I find it hard to type the word 'expert' without feeling a hand on my shoulder, a tall chap bearded behind me about to instruct me in proper usage.
    So was it an expert or specialist who wrote the headline it was the SUN wot won it !

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    From the Lab of the Government Chemist, '75;

    "An expert is a drip under pressure."

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    So much for Expert Stylus Company, then. Should be re-named 'Specialist Stylus Company'. Having written this in jest, I actually think it sounds better !

    An expert is someone who has comprehensive and authoritative knowledge or skill in a subject area. A specialist is very similar (highly skilled etc.) but more in concentrating on a narrow field or activity. The descriptions sound as if there's a distinct difference but not so linguistically, it appears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapid View Post
    So was it an expert or specialist who wrote the headline it was the SUN wot won it !
    I never worked on the staff of The Sun (mainly working on broadsheets) but I did shifts there on occasion, quite regularly at one point in the 90s when I moved back to the UK from New Zealand and didn't have a staff job at the time. Also did shift work on The Star, the Daily Express, The Mirror and The People around that time as well as Times, Sunday Times, the Herald, The Scotsman and the Edinburgh Evening News. (In the 80s I worked on the Daily Record and Sunday Mail in Glasgow).

    The fact is that The Sun's editors were (and probably still are) legendary among their peers as unquestionably the best in the business. Subbing 1500 words of wire copy of some complicated civil court case down to half or a third of that was hard enough on the broadsheets, but it takes a huge amount of skill to convincingly condense it down to 3-4 paragraphs, approx 12-15 word first para, 15-20 word for subsequent paras, with a heading three or four lines of five or six characters. Try it sometime and you might get an appreciation of what it takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    I never worked on the staff of The Sun (mainly working on broadsheets) but I did shifts there on occasion, quite regularly at one point in the 90s when I moved back to the UK from New Zealand and didn't have a staff job at the time. Also did shift work on The Star, the Daily Express, The Mirror and The People around that time as well as Times, Sunday Times, the Herald, The Scotsman and the Edinburgh Evening News. (In the 80s I worked on the Daily Record and Sunday Mail in Glasgow).

    The fact is that The Sun's editors were (and probably still are) legendary among their peers as unquestionably the best in the business. Subbing 1500 words of wire copy of some complicated civil court case down to half or a third of that was hard enough on the broadsheets, but it takes a huge amount of skill to convincingly condense it down to 3-4 paragraphs, approx 12-15 word first para, 15-20 word for subsequent paras, with a heading three or four lines of five or six characters. Try it sometime and you might get an appreciation of what it takes.
    Yes ,it was just a lighthearted comment said in jest. Although not a lover of the sun newspaper I m always quite impressed with that Trevor Kavanagh guy when he appears on the airwaves.
    I m a big admirer of the newspaper industry in general.

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    always made a good substitute for toilet paper did sun. certainly had a similar content when used
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