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  1. #1
    Join Date: May 2018

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    Hi everyone,

    thought I'd post some questions here rather than just bombarding a select (lucky haha) few members with my amateurish musings!

    Anyway, I need an SS preamp. I'm planning a future build using a Neurochrome buffer board but this isn't available until next month and will likely take a while to assemble the rest of the bits that are worthy of a "proper" build.

    In the mean time I've been looking into what is available for a reasonable outlay, lets say under 200 (although flexible). I'm leaning more towards the chi-fi end of the spectrum as you do get a lot of parts for your money it seems. Of course I'm not expecting the last (or even the second or third last!) word in quality here.

    I quite like the little glorified volume controls like this:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296...c004pqop6&mp=1


    Also this Naim copy looks pretty good.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3301...c007dQ2rA&mp=1


    Remote would be nice but not absolutely vital.
    Also ability to upgrade components like volume pots/transformers etc would be good.

    I'm well open to any suggestions, thanks in advance guys!

    Cheers

    Chris
    - Linn Sondek LP12 - Ittok III, Denon 304, Mose Power Supply - Ming Da MC 368-B - JJ KT88's, RCA 12au7's - Musical Paradise MP-D1 mkII - WE396a
    - Mark Travis Phono Stage - Gold Lion 12ax7's, Tung-Sol 6X4 - AD Audio SUT - Pioneer N-30K
    - Behringer DEQ 2496 - Quad 63's - REL T3 (sometimes)

    - Audio Technica LP5 - AT440mlb - Musical Paradise MP 303 Class D - Jolida Glass FX III - Raytheon 5755 Yellow Print - Beresford Bushmaster II
    - EAR834p Clone - Ei 12ax7's, Sylvania 12au7 in V3 - Cocktail Audio/Novafidelity X12 - 15" Paper Drivers in Tannoy Cabs (lows) - Custom crossover into Tannoy HPD Monitors (highs) - REL T3

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    I have a very nice Primare Pre 30 in black which is fully remote controlled, input selection, input gain, balance and volume but I’d need 500 plus postage for it.

    Might be a stretch too far but you should get your money back when you’re done with it.
    Naim CDS CD player, BTE Khozmo passive preamp, Luxman Avance Z504 power amp, Lockwood Academy speakers with Tannoy HPD385 drivers, BigBottle Audio Spotfire interconnects.


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    The review of the Naim copy states there is a hum, also, when Alan tested that relay volume control board, he found it to be less than perfect. IIRC

    The first link is effectively a passive with the transformer powering the relays etc.

    Heard one, and for 100 it pretty much recommends itself but It didn't last long here.

    Second link looks ok, but if the Neurochrome buffer is out next month, why not hang on?
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > SIMaudio Moon LP5.3RS
    Digital: Orchard Audio PecanPi with JRiver
    Preamplifier: Neurochrome Differential Preamp
    Amplification: Neurochrome Modulus 686
    Speakers: Mordaunt Short Performance 880
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable

    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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    Join Date: May 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Second link looks ok, but if the Neurochrome buffer is out next month, why not hang on?
    This pre is really just for me to have as stop gap before the Neurochrome build begins but I also plan to use it in a much cheaper errrr third system where absolute SQ is not actually paramount. AARRRGGGHHHH blasphemy blasphemy!!

    Obviously I'd still like something half decent but functionality of having more than one input are the main criteria. Now I think about it a remote probably is important so I'll bump that up the priority list . . .
    - Linn Sondek LP12 - Ittok III, Denon 304, Mose Power Supply - Ming Da MC 368-B - JJ KT88's, RCA 12au7's - Musical Paradise MP-D1 mkII - WE396a
    - Mark Travis Phono Stage - Gold Lion 12ax7's, Tung-Sol 6X4 - AD Audio SUT - Pioneer N-30K
    - Behringer DEQ 2496 - Quad 63's - REL T3 (sometimes)

    - Audio Technica LP5 - AT440mlb - Musical Paradise MP 303 Class D - Jolida Glass FX III - Raytheon 5755 Yellow Print - Beresford Bushmaster II
    - EAR834p Clone - Ei 12ax7's, Sylvania 12au7 in V3 - Cocktail Audio/Novafidelity X12 - 15" Paper Drivers in Tannoy Cabs (lows) - Custom crossover into Tannoy HPD Monitors (highs) - REL T3

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJo View Post
    I have a very nice Primare Pre 30 in black which is fully remote controlled, input selection, input gain, balance and volume but I’d need 500 plus postage for it.

    Might be a stretch too far but you should get your money back when you’re done with it.
    Thanks John,

    probably a slight stretch for me at the moment. I know the Primare's are very good though.

    If priorities change I'll keep it in mind. Nice one.
    - Linn Sondek LP12 - Ittok III, Denon 304, Mose Power Supply - Ming Da MC 368-B - JJ KT88's, RCA 12au7's - Musical Paradise MP-D1 mkII - WE396a
    - Mark Travis Phono Stage - Gold Lion 12ax7's, Tung-Sol 6X4 - AD Audio SUT - Pioneer N-30K
    - Behringer DEQ 2496 - Quad 63's - REL T3 (sometimes)

    - Audio Technica LP5 - AT440mlb - Musical Paradise MP 303 Class D - Jolida Glass FX III - Raytheon 5755 Yellow Print - Beresford Bushmaster II
    - EAR834p Clone - Ei 12ax7's, Sylvania 12au7 in V3 - Cocktail Audio/Novafidelity X12 - 15" Paper Drivers in Tannoy Cabs (lows) - Custom crossover into Tannoy HPD Monitors (highs) - REL T3

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    Found a good deal on a Musical Fidelity A3.2 CR preamp . . . (rather than risk the chi-fi lottery!)

    Any thoughts??
    - Linn Sondek LP12 - Ittok III, Denon 304, Mose Power Supply - Ming Da MC 368-B - JJ KT88's, RCA 12au7's - Musical Paradise MP-D1 mkII - WE396a
    - Mark Travis Phono Stage - Gold Lion 12ax7's, Tung-Sol 6X4 - AD Audio SUT - Pioneer N-30K
    - Behringer DEQ 2496 - Quad 63's - REL T3 (sometimes)

    - Audio Technica LP5 - AT440mlb - Musical Paradise MP 303 Class D - Jolida Glass FX III - Raytheon 5755 Yellow Print - Beresford Bushmaster II
    - EAR834p Clone - Ei 12ax7's, Sylvania 12au7 in V3 - Cocktail Audio/Novafidelity X12 - 15" Paper Drivers in Tannoy Cabs (lows) - Custom crossover into Tannoy HPD Monitors (highs) - REL T3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti-cal View Post
    Found a good deal on a Musical Fidelity A3.2 CR preamp . . . (rather than risk the chi-fi lottery!)

    Any thoughts??
    Nothing Immediatly screams 'avoid'
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > SIMaudio Moon LP5.3RS
    Digital: Orchard Audio PecanPi with JRiver
    Preamplifier: Neurochrome Differential Preamp
    Amplification: Neurochrome Modulus 686
    Speakers: Mordaunt Short Performance 880
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable

    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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    For a cheaper version of the first link try this
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284...7-ff334eb1f9ad

    The switched relay/resistor units are much better than an Alps Blue, however there is no gain.

    (I feel lucky...I feel lucky....etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti-cal View Post
    I quite like the little glorified volume controls like this:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296...c004pqop6&mp=1
    I've had one of these for a while now - very transparent sound indeed. Only downside is the poorly designed remote where you have to take it apart to change battery.
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