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Thread: My kit and a possible purchase of Tom Evans The Vibe or Tom Evan Groove+ SRX

  1. #11
    Join Date: Aug 2014

    Location: Aarhus, Denmark

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    I'm Peter.

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    Thanks Jazid.
    Inexpliable things happen in different systems. The EAR 802 that I sold off to a German buyer raved about its qualities. In my system it had sounded a bit too even-handed. A Herron VTSP 2 that I listened to through a Line Magnetic 219a sounded dull and lifeless. Without it the LM 219a sounded massively better.

    The DIY DCB1 sounds crisp, detailed and brings forth marvellous bass with my EAR 516 + ELS 57s in my small 9 square meter study. If the Vibe is better, it is really good. Thanks for the comment!
    DIY DCB1 buffer / EAR 516 power / Quad ESL 57 (One Thing bass panels)
    Vinyl: Empire 698 / Shure M91ED+Rod Elliott mm stage onboard DCB1 / Benz Micro Gullwing SLR + Benz Micro Lukaschek PP1
    Digital: Synology NAS / JRiver on Win 10 PC / Nuforce S192U USB to spdif/ Line Magnetic 502CA DAC

  2. #12
    Join Date: Aug 2014

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    I would still like to hear from other Tom Evans The Vibe owners to hear what they used the preamp with and what they changed to if they did change to something else.
    DIY DCB1 buffer / EAR 516 power / Quad ESL 57 (One Thing bass panels)
    Vinyl: Empire 698 / Shure M91ED+Rod Elliott mm stage onboard DCB1 / Benz Micro Gullwing SLR + Benz Micro Lukaschek PP1
    Digital: Synology NAS / JRiver on Win 10 PC / Nuforce S192U USB to spdif/ Line Magnetic 502CA DAC

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    As above, B1 was truly the worst pre I tried and I had many. There is a problem with Pass products in recent years, they are quite far from sound level from his best works some 15-20 yrs ago. Very dull and boring, technically correct but no music.

    As for the comments about units sounding different in different systems, the answer is quite simple - matching impedance. If people would think a bit more what they are trying to match, this would be more of an educated/informed and less of a trial/error game.
    Gordan.
    Speakers: Oris Swing MkII
    Amps: Thomas Mayer 300b/ Hiraga La Maison de L'Audiophile 20
    Preamp: Silver AVC by eng. Ferenc Lazar
    Phono Preamp: Shishido LCR by Solaja Audio
    Deck: Garrard 301 Martin Bastin reworked/plinthed with Fidelity Research FR64fx
    Cartridges: SPU Spirit/ Koetsu Black revisited by eng. Salai/ Miyajima Shilabe
    Step Up Transformers: Tango MCT 999/ Ortofon T-5000/ Lumiere SUT
    Digital: Shigaclone by eng. Ferenc Lazar with Lampizator Amber II
    Wires: of sufficient length

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    Join Date: Nov 2015

    Location: Wolverhampton

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    I'm Oliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anubisgrau View Post
    As above, B1 was truly the worst pre I tried and I had many. There is a problem with Pass products in recent years, they are quite far from sound level from his best works some 15-20 yrs ago. Very dull and boring, technically correct but no music.

    As for the comments about units sounding different in different systems, the answer is quite simple - matching impedance. If people would think a bit more what they are trying to match, this would be more of an educated/informed and less of a trial/error game.
    Never heard a B1 but had a Turbo DCB1 which certainly didn't lack in musical terms. No apparent technically correct over enjoyablility in my opinion but yes, matching a pre to a system is of greater importance than I realised.
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    Digital: Orchard Audio PecanPi with JRiver
    Preamplifier: Neurochrome Differential Preamp
    Amplification: Neurochrome Modulus 686
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    Join Date: Aug 2014

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    Thanks both. I enjoy my DIY DCB1 immensely. No complaints there.
    DIY DCB1 buffer / EAR 516 power / Quad ESL 57 (One Thing bass panels)
    Vinyl: Empire 698 / Shure M91ED+Rod Elliott mm stage onboard DCB1 / Benz Micro Gullwing SLR + Benz Micro Lukaschek PP1
    Digital: Synology NAS / JRiver on Win 10 PC / Nuforce S192U USB to spdif/ Line Magnetic 502CA DAC

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    Yes, and Ollie got my Dcb1 and loved it too, pimped it up as well. Just goes to show. Gordan's impedance matching position doesn't add up here, important though it is in general terms. A BCB1 is a zero gain buffer, it should be utterly transparent and unaffected by any reasonable circuit on either side of it. That it manifestly isn't is my sole criticism, but where it does work, it works very well and many I trust attest to this. Gordan and I march out of step with the rest... That mysterious synergy, it's all magic smoke and solder to me!

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    Join Date: Nov 2008

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    I'm gordan.

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    Buffers can be strange, once I owned Bent Audio TAP with Slagle AVCs inside, it was a decent preamp as long as you don't activate output buffers. A pure horror!
    Gordan.
    Speakers: Oris Swing MkII
    Amps: Thomas Mayer 300b/ Hiraga La Maison de L'Audiophile 20
    Preamp: Silver AVC by eng. Ferenc Lazar
    Phono Preamp: Shishido LCR by Solaja Audio
    Deck: Garrard 301 Martin Bastin reworked/plinthed with Fidelity Research FR64fx
    Cartridges: SPU Spirit/ Koetsu Black revisited by eng. Salai/ Miyajima Shilabe
    Step Up Transformers: Tango MCT 999/ Ortofon T-5000/ Lumiere SUT
    Digital: Shigaclone by eng. Ferenc Lazar with Lampizator Amber II
    Wires: of sufficient length

  8. #18
    Join Date: Feb 2010

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    I've had several B1s and DCB1s (I think four or five altogether) and experience has been variable according to what they were partnering. At their best they can be good, if a bit behind the very best - though sound per pound when well executed and well matched is quite hard to beat.

    I have heard both a Vibe and a Linear A driving Tannoys, and a Vibe on its own driving a KT88 push pull amp. The Vibe on its own is a superb thing and should be better than any of the Pass boxes under almost any circumstances - it was utterly superb regardless what it was driving. However I would suggest the Linear A however requires careful matching - it didn't set the Tannoys alight at all, I suspect due to its relatively high output impedance. It may be happier with less fussy speakers. Be cautious and try and get a listen with your speakers before spending money. (I'm glad I did).
    Main: Speakers 'RFC' Tannoy Canterburys / custom crossovers with Tannoy ST50 supertweeters; Amp - Silvercore 833C monoblocks; preamp TBA watch this space; Vinyl: Schopper'd Thorens TD124 MkII + Ikeda IT345-CR1 9 inch and Ikeda IT-407 12 inch tonearms; Cartridges Stereo - Miyajima Madake, Miyajima Takumi, Ikeda 9TT, vintage Ortofon SPU GM and SPU Gold; Mono - Miyajimas - Zero 0.7, Premium 1.0, Miyajima/Edison '78' 4.0 conical, and Shure M44 strapped for mono with several Expert Stylus conicals for different eras of 78s; Phono stage Allnic H7000V used with Miyajima ETR-Mono and ETR-Stereo SUTs; Digital: Audio Note CDT2/II transport, heavily enhanced AN DAC based on kit but aspiring to DAC5 spec.

    Study: Speakers - Tannoy DC6; Amp: Marantz PM-4; Digital: CDP Sony CDP-X3000ES & Arcam rBlink; Vinyl: Garrard 401 with AT 1503 MkI broadcast arm, Ortofon SPU Classic GM, Ortofon 2-15k SUT and Puresound Tenuto platter mat

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    As ever Tom is on the money. It was my Linear A and it wasn't a success (which was a PITA for me). But music from the Linear A into Avant-garde Trios is a thing of joy and surpassing beauty, and it made a good fist of it into my ANEs.

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    I have a Groove SRX+ and over the years upgrading all the way from an ISO. Several times during this period I felt I could do better but during comparison it always embarrassed the competition (included an AR PH9). I have used TE phono stages with the Audio Innovations S500, Audio Note M3, Zanden 1200, Audio Design PreAmp and more recently the Almarro A318B(+).

    I have considered the Vibe several times in the past but I now have an integrated amplifier so its not necessary!
    Old punk rockers don't mellow.

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