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    Default Ruby cantilever or Sapphire Cantilever?

    I'm eyeing up a new JICO stylus for my Shure V15 mk3 and have the option of ruby or Sapphire. Any ideas which is best?
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    I believe they both contribute to a different sound but I only have experience of Ruby cantilevers as used on the Ortofon Kontrapunkt B. I have often pondered why Jico use both?

    Personally I thought the Boron cantilevers they used were excellent but I believe this material became constrained hence the use of Ruby and sapphire?
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    Ruby and Sapphire are aluminium oxide and very similar. I think Ruby is the denser, but could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Ruby and Sapphire are aluminium oxide and very similar. I think Ruby is the denser, but could be wrong.
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    I would sooner have a Boron cantilever myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I would sooner have a Boron cantilever myself.

    Hmmm, just found the option of the new SAS diamond and boron cantilever, and $50 cheaper. Decisions, decisions!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Hmmm, just found the option of the new SAS diamond and boron cantilever, and $50 cheaper. Decisions, decisions!!!
    That's the one I would go for Andy. The SAS Jico stylus I had was diamond and boron cantilever and sounded superb.
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    I'm running an original MR stylus so can't help you but will be very interested in your final result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chas B View Post
    I'm running an original MR stylus so can't help you but will be very interested in your final result.
    Yep that's what I have at the moment, the VN35MR. I bought it with the Shure v15, not sure how many hours it's got on it. Still sounds great.
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    [QUOTE=Jimbo;1137812]That's the one I would go for Andy. The SAS Jico stylus I had was diamond and boron cantilever and sounded superb. [/

    Alright Jim! TBH the Shure is only going to play classic Rock from the 70's through my EAR clone. Be interesting to compare it to the old M55E I have kicking around.
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