Crap Weather for November

[Marco]

Where did you go for lunch, daftee - anywhere nice?

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

Where did you go for lunch, daftee - anywhere nice?

Marco.

I've stuck a short post (stump?) on the wine, beer etc recommendations thread elsewhere. Food was pretty standard pub fare, but nicely done - I just had their steak and ale pie cos I'm adventurous that way, but my extensive experience of that particular dish told me that theirs was definitely above average. Anita's choice, some sort of steak melt sandwich was good too, although she struggled a bit due to some dental work yesterday.

Downsides of the pub were that it was tiny, so rather 'intimate'. And due to it being 'dog-friendly' (most places up there are) the racket was as bad as those family friendly places with screaming kids running around...

[Marco]

Nice one. Steak and Ale pie, if done right from scratch (which I'm sure yours was) is great.

Shame about the racket, although I love dogs. It's interesting though, as I firmly believe (rather like kids) that dogs, if properly brought up and trained, exhibit the behavioural traits/habits that their owners have instilled in them, and so rowdy dogs often reflect rowdy owners, or ones who haven't trained their dogs properly.

We go to loads of country pubs round here, which are dog-friendly, and you never hear a peep out of the dogs. They just sit quietly beside their owners, whilst they enjoy a meal, and perhaps have a bowl of water in front of them, and so they're invariably impeccably behaved, which is how it should be.

That's one thing that puts us off the lakes, beautiful as they are, the surrounding towns and areas are often overcrowded, and of course that applies to the shops and pubs, especially with walkers, during the tourist season - you can't move for the buggers, particularly in places such as Keswick. To get some peace and quiet, you need to go off the beaten track a bit more.

However, it's a bit of a catch 22, as if you want to go shopping you need to be near towns, but if Anita and you fancy getting away from it all sometime, when shopping isn't in the equation, I'd thoroughly recommend visiting Snowdonia, where the scenery is just as stunning as that in the lakes, but rather more rugged, and the mountain ranges are simply spectacular, with no rowdy crowds. You'll generally have the place pretty much to yourselves, unless you go right in the middle of the tourist season.

If you ever fancy it, I could give you some good reccos of where to go and see

Marco.

[rmcin626]

When we were in Keswick earlier in the year we were the only without dogs, or that’s how it felt.

[Marco]

Yup, and for me that's fine (as the area you're in dictates such), as long as the dogs are well-trained and behaved - including their owners!

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

Well the town, and certainly the pub were very doggy, which I didn't mind. It was just three dogs which weren't getting on with each other.

[Marco]

And what did their owners do to address the situation?

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

And what did their owners do to address the situation?

Marco.

We were at the other end of the pub so didn't see much, but as far as I can tell they did nothing. Certainly the racket went on for some time. Staff should have kicked 'em out. As with a lot of things, I wasn't really bothered by it. As long as they don't snatch me food or do a turd near me it's all good. Maybe if just the owners had been slung out the dogs would have got on with each other.

[hifilover]

-3.2ºC overnight and a hard frost; lovely

[rmcin626]

Currently -2c and frosty