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    Valve rolling is a slippery slope. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Valve rolling is a slippery slope. :-)
    Yup you end up with hoards...

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    Another Sovtek 12AX7LPS recommendation here as a cheapish new valve.
    Keep an eye out for Ei ECC83 /12AX7s too. They have not been made for a few years now, but used Telefunken smooth plate tooling. They were often branded as Marshall, Edicron, RCA as well as Ei. So can still be found at reasonable prices if you know what to look for. They have a 2A1 etched code near the base...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman_al View Post
    Another Sovtek 12AX7LPS recommendation here as a cheapish new valve.
    Keep an eye out for Ei ECC83 /12AX7s too. They have not been made for a few years now, but used Telefunken smooth plate tooling. They were often branded as Marshall, Edicron, RCA as well as Ei. So can still be found at reasonable prices if you know what to look for. They have a 2A1 etched code near the base...
    I think I have 3 EIs stashed away in my small valve box. They're not going anywhere soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by User211 View Post
    ECC803S is just a special quality ECC83.
    ... in the same way that a Bentley Continental is just a special quality Beetle...
    But hey! They both last for yonks

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    Thread moved from Analogue Art to Blank Canvas, as it's not really about playing records!
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    ...and subsequently moved to where it *actually* belongs, as the thread title is 'Tube Rolling'!

    Description of the Artist's Palette (edited):

    ....Info on tubes and headphones (inc. headphone amps and systems) should also be discussed here.
    Seems like even some mods don't READ things properly

    If the main theme of the discussion had been about music, the place for the thread would've been in Musical Compositions. If the main theme had been cartridges, then it would've gone into Analogue Art (where cartridges, and everything relating to turntables, or other analogue source components, is discussed), and if the main theme is actually about tubes, then, as outlined, it should've been put here.

    The main theme of the discussion dictates where threads should go. It's all about the main theme

    Blank Canvas is for all hi-fi discussions out with of those covered by the dedicated sections underneath, or anything else that doesn't appear to have an obvious 'home'.

    This stuff ain't rocket science, folks!

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    Try NOS Mazda ecc83's. They tend to be cheaper than old Mullards but sound much the same. I have 2 which I tried in my phono stage and they sound equally as good as my old shield Mullards.

    If you have the valve that came with the Project even a new JJ or Tungsol ecc83 will sound better.

    You will end up buying a selection like the rest of us anyway so just dip a toe depending on how much you want to spend.
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