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    wouldnt believe everything on web etc... my dad said it was (mirror)in the day pro mosley, and ran a campaign to get folk to sign up.. he wouldnt use it for toilet paper lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Not according to Wikipedia which says The Daily Mirror only published one piece supporting the BUF which was a 'guest article' by Rothermere:

    The BUF was protectionist, strongly anti-communist and nationalistic to the point of advocating authoritarianism.[citation needed] It claimed membership as high as 50,000, and had the Daily Mail and Daily Mirror among its earliest (though short-lived) supporters.[17][18][19] The Mirror piece was a guest article by Daily Mail owner Viscount Rothermere and an apparent one-off; despite these briefly warm words for the BUF, the paper was so vitriolic in its condemnation of European fascism that Nazi Germany added the paper's directors to a hit-list in the event of a successful Operation Sea Lion.[20
    I got my info from

    https://spartacus-educational.com/Jmirror.htm

    Hugh Cudlipp, a young journalist with socialist views later explained, was also recruited: "Roy Suffern evolved and ran the news pages... I ran the features. The leader writer, Richard Jennings, wrote his own editorials. Cassandra (William Connor) edited his own column and Philip Zec evolved his own cartoons, collaborating with Cassandra on the captions. If there was a master-mind, or even two master-minds, behind the operation it was not readily apparent to the guerrillas who were were aiming the hand grenades and holding up to the public to ransom." (39)

    Zec's cartoons were an immediate success with the readers. Zec, who was Jewish, felt passionately about the need to defeat Adolf Hitler, a produced a series of powerful cartoons against the Nazi government. As his brother, Donald Zec, pointed out: "He presented Hitler, Goering, and others in the Nazi hierarchy as strutting buffoons. Replacing ridicule with venom, he often drew them in the form of snakes, vultures, toads, or monkeys. Not surprisingly, captured German documents listed Zec's name among those to be arrested immediately England had fallen." (40)

    Richard Jennings, deeply influenced by the ideas of William Morris, wrote the editorials. Columnists in the newspaper were constantly inviting reader response and correspondence columns expanded to accommodate those anxious to obtain advice or to express political views. Philip Zec's cartoons became an important part in the way the newspaper developed a social conscience and during the late 1930s he became the "country's foremost and most notorious political cartoonist." (41)

    In July 1938 Hugh Cudlipp and Cecil King visited Winston Churchill at his home in Kent when together they planned the attack on Neville Chamberlain and his policy of appeasement. The result was a series of articles by Churchill that appeared in the the Daily Mirror during the following month. In one article Churchill warned that the "unaccountable delay - whoever is to blame for it - in concluding an all-in alliance between Britain, France and Russia, increases the danger of a wrong decision by Herr Hitler." Cudlipp pointed out that it was the only newspaper that was pressing the Government for immediate action". (42)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    I got my info from

    https://spartacus-educational.com/Jmirror.htm

    Hugh Cudlipp, a young journalist with socialist views later explained, was also recruited: "Roy Suffern evolved and ran the news pages... I ran the features. The leader writer, Richard Jennings, wrote his own editorials. Cassandra (William Connor) edited his own column and Philip Zec evolved his own cartoons, collaborating with Cassandra on the captions. If there was a master-mind, or even two master-minds, behind the operation it was not readily apparent to the guerrillas who were were aiming the hand grenades and holding up to the public to ransom." (39)

    Zec's cartoons were an immediate success with the readers. Zec, who was Jewish, felt passionately about the need to defeat Adolf Hitler, a produced a series of powerful cartoons against the Nazi government. As his brother, Donald Zec, pointed out: "He presented Hitler, Goering, and others in the Nazi hierarchy as strutting buffoons. Replacing ridicule with venom, he often drew them in the form of snakes, vultures, toads, or monkeys. Not surprisingly, captured German documents listed Zec's name among those to be arrested immediately England had fallen." (40)

    Richard Jennings, deeply influenced by the ideas of William Morris, wrote the editorials. Columnists in the newspaper were constantly inviting reader response and correspondence columns expanded to accommodate those anxious to obtain advice or to express political views. Philip Zec's cartoons became an important part in the way the newspaper developed a social conscience and during the late 1930s he became the "country's foremost and most notorious political cartoonist." (41)

    In July 1938 Hugh Cudlipp and Cecil King visited Winston Churchill at his home in Kent when together they planned the attack on Neville Chamberlain and his policy of appeasement. The result was a series of articles by Churchill that appeared in the the Daily Mirror during the following month. In one article Churchill warned that the "unaccountable delay - whoever is to blame for it - in concluding an all-in alliance between Britain, France and Russia, increases the danger of a wrong decision by Herr Hitler." Cudlipp pointed out that it was the only newspaper that was pressing the Government for immediate action". (42)
    That's quite a good read although it does support the Wikipedia claim (sadly the Wikipedia citations are not checkable):

    Lord Rothermere still owned a significant number of shares in the Daily Mirror and had enough power to publish an article in praise of Oswald Mosley and the The British Union of Fascists (BUF) in January, 1934: "At this next vital election Britain's survival as a Great Power will depend on the existence of a well-organised Party of the Right, ready to take over responsibility for national affairs with the same directness of purpose and energy of method as Mussolini and Hitler have displayed.... That is why I say Hurrah for the Blackshirts! ... Hundreds of thousands of young British men and women would like to see their own country develop that spirit of patriotic pride and service which has transformed Germany and Italy. They cannot do better than seek out the nearest branch of the Blackshirts and make themselves acquainted with their aims and plans." (31)


    some great advice for young people there lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    I dunno. Some people are made anxious by loud noises, just as some people are scared of spiders, though spiders don't bother me at all. I don't think it's clapping per se that's the problem, so much as the combination of whooping, cheering, whistling and clapping. But I don't see any need to get het up about it.
    Indeed, but not het up about that; het up about the gagging or suppression of perfectly normal human activities, because some do-gooding idiots have deemed it as 'upsetting'.to the grossly oversensitive. What next? Ban laughter, 'cos it's a bit loud, innit? Yeah, that'll go down well with the po-faced malcontents, making big issues over nothing, posing as 'do-gooders'

    The tossers behind this nonsense need a SLAP, not a clap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed, but not het up about that; het up about the gagging or suppression of perfectly normal human activities, because some do-gooding idiots have deemed it as 'upsetting'.to the grossly oversensitive. What next? Ban laughter, 'cos it's a bit loud, innit? Yeah, that'll go down well with the po-faced malcontents, making big issues over nothing, posing as 'do-gooders'

    The tossers behind this nonsense need a SLAP, not a clap.

    Marco.
    Well I think they SHOULD ban laughter, as it unfairly excludes those with no sense of humour, which does make up the majority of these liberal do-gooders. Serious business this inclusiveness, no room for mirth and merriment.
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    Maybe I'm a bit odd but if had some affliction or condition that caused me to become distressed by loud, raucous crowds I'd avoid them. I wouldn't expect the majority to have to have to change their behaviour to accommodate me. Perhaps I need to learn to be more selfish?

    If I went to live in a country where their customs and cultures were different to those I am used to I would respect them as I am the minority, I wouldn't dream of expecting them to change or even make allowances for my benefit. If I wasn't prepared to tolerate their ways I simply wouldn't go there
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    This guy hits the nail on the head

    https://youtu.be/p9_bI789Gog

    "What does this achieve? Who is this helping?"

    Very good questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    Maybe I'm a bit odd but if had some affliction or condition that caused me to become distressed by loud, raucous crowds I'd avoid them. I wouldn't expect the majority to have to have to change their behaviour to accommodate me. Perhaps I need to learn to be more selfish?

    If I went to live in a country where their customs and cultures were different to those I am used to I would respect them as I am the minority, I wouldn't dream of expecting them to change or even make allowances for my benefit. If I wasn't prepared to tolerate their ways I simply wouldn't go there
    +1 Gary, making complete sense as usual. I would applaud, but you never know who is listening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    This guy hits the nail on the head

    https://youtu.be/p9_bI789Gog

    "What does this achieve? Who is this helping?"

    Very good questions
    Seen this before. Despite the sheer tonnage of cack to be found online, the voice of reason occasionally slips through. And long may it continue
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    I'm talking real Nazis, not Trump voters
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