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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    Women hifi owners?

    The world's gone mad.

    They'll be letting them vote next.
    Careful now. I appreciate the sarcastic humour, but let's not tip things over the edge into sexism

    And btw, that's directed at everyone. No-one so far has mentioned that women are often able to discern genuine differences in the sound of hi-fi systems better than their male husbands or partners!

    In that respect, I often value Del's [much less biased] opinion more than mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnG View Post
    It is very obvious if going by the Male/Female ratio's of contributors or attendance witnessed at a HiFi Event or a Forum Membership, that Females are the lesser sex who are involved.
    I would presume in retail, that Females are more involved in purchasing items to replay music.
    I would think that the retail world has a history of sales where the ratio of Female/Male purchases is a closer balance to the above.
    When it comes to a dedicated HiFi system, usually it will sit in a prominent place in a home, so the aesthetics and choice of a device will be of interest, so to be able to view something in the flesh goes a long way.
    I'm sure there are Females in relationships who indirectly like HiFi,
    as a Partner who has a Passion/Hobby/Obsession for HiFi, will usually be a Home Dweller,not spending vast amounts of time in pursuit of other interests.
    So that can be very reassuring and keep the peace.
    I know there are Female partners who are happy to purchase HiFi Devices for partners with a Head full of all things HiFi, and even willing to turn a blind eye to a stretching of a budget to have, 'not another device brought into the home' following the crappiest reason to make a purchase being offered
    Then there is the On Line purchasing, supported by product images, from experience, I have seen my own Female Family members view Musical replay devices, as a attempt to inform me of how a HiFi system can look, 'another lead balloon moment'
    Just recently a second system set of speakers were only allowed in the living room if they were all wood grain cabinets, as they had to look 'classy'. I was tied to this idea, and any proposals were subjected to scrutiny, there is no way my 57's are getting back into the room, even if I make a Classy veneered cover for them 'that was another lead balloon moment'. I tried hard on that one.
    I am sure today of one thing Males and Females appear to listen to music in a very close ratio, I would put my neck out and say 50/50.
    Cars have radios and Phone Docks and CD's and what ever else that can be used today.
    Streaming and Downloading Music Files is Massive and I bet the market is supported by Females more than Males.
    I bet if it was not for Female Support, the likes of Taylor Swift and Adele wealth would be much lessened.
    Nearly every individual of a certain age range,met in a Public area going about their daily business, will be seen adorned with Ear Plug Speakers, taking in some form of media, which will regularly be music.
    Music is not 'dead in the water' it is supported in a way not known of in previous markets.
    Females contribute to this modern method of supporting Music en mass.
    HiFi is different, it is a archaic pursuit, with a diminishing following, I entered this pursuit as a young individual, and met many young individuals on my journey, who all seemed to be enjoying listening to the thoughts of the older established individuals and took advice when it appeared sound, 'pardon the pun'.
    I am sure I am still in the company of many of those young individuals today, who are now of a age like myself.
    I rarely see obvious numbers of younger generation at Forum HiFi events, but do see a younger generation individual occasionally with the curiosity and passion to be creative in the world of HiFi.
    To be converse in the Modern World of Music replay, and then take that and Mix it with HiFi DIY projects and Cherry Picked, off the shelf and yesteryear Devices, seems like a good place to be, in my mind.
    I feel sure that in the the Commercial / Professional World and at a Trade Tech type of Show, the Younger Generation are the Dominant age group in attendance.
    John, do you have an aversion to paragraphs?

    Sorry, no offence, but I'm disinclined to read a word you've written, simply because everything is so jumbled up. Therefore, in future I'd appreciate it if you used some paragraphs and spaced things out a bit. Cheers!

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Careful now. I appreciate the sarcastic humour, but let's not tip things over the edge into sexism

    And btw, that's directed at everyone. No-one so far has mentioned that women are often able to discern genuine differences in the sound of hi-fi systems better than their male husbands or partners!

    In that respect, I often value Del's [much less biased] opinion more than mine.

    Marco.
    Slightly off topic but interesting point you raise Marco, I find my dog is a very good soundboard for audio. I can be playing King Crimson full tilt and he does not complain,
    whereas at other times where perhaps a component is not as well chosen -he complains bitterly.

    Thing is i usually agree with him, but he is exactly right on every occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Careful now. I appreciate the sarcastic humour, but let's not tip things over the edge into sexism

    And btw, that's directed at everyone. No-one so far has mentioned that women are often able to discern genuine differences in the sound of hi-fi systems better than their male husbands or partners!

    In that respect, I often value Del's [much less biased] opinion more than mine.

    Marco.
    My ex-wife was very good at discerning differences whenever I made changes in my system, and was very good at describing those changes. Thing is though, she couldn't care less about those changes. I'm not suggesting that female women of the opposite sex have cloth ears, but rather that none of it matters to them. Also, (don't bite my head off) I think for MOST women (not all) the look of the hifi is more important than the sound.

    And I don't think I'm being chauvinistic when I state my belief that while most women like a nicely kept home, men are largely non-committal. Sure, men like it all to be nice, but aren't prepared to put in the hours themselves, unless they are in a position to make their home into a "look at me" statement piece. Not sexism, just the way things have been down the centuries: women were always the nest-builders, and men the providers.

    As our increasingly materialistic culture has brought about a need for bigger incomes, so more women now go out to work, and this is bound to affect the roles at home. When Mrs. P worked full-time we shared household chores (although we did play to our strengths, she cooked and I cleaned), but the finer details of homemaking ie not having a carpet of dust on everything, mattered more to her than me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    Slightly off topic but interesting point you raise Marco, I find my dog is a very good soundboard for audio. I can be playing King Crimson full tilt and he does not complain,
    whereas at other times where perhaps a component is not as well chosen -he complains bitterly.

    Thing is i usually agree with him, but he is exactly right on every occasion.
    Yup, and your approach is entirely logical, simply because your dog a) has intrinsically more acute hearing, and b) is free from your hi-fi biases. Therefore what he hears and responds to, in that respect, is very much worth taking into consideration.

    And the same often applies with women

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post

    I'm not suggesting that female women of the opposite sex have cloth ears, but rather that none of it matters to them.
    Is this a new gender that I have missed out on?
    Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.

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    Dogs have a typical hearing range of 70Hz - 45kHz. So it is not surprising that they might display a reaction to a change, if the audio response differed at frequencies above the range of human hearing.

    Cats have an even wider hearing frequency range: 55Hz - 79kHz.
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    Is there any way in which cats are not superior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Is there any way in which cats are not superior?
    Cats seem to defaecate with impunity on my lawn, whereas dogs do not!
    Barry

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