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Thread: SME 3009R: anything to watch out for when buying s/h?

  1. #11
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    This is what I was told by a German expert on SME arms

    "Dear Peter,

    thanks for the pictures. The tonearm is not original at all. The counterweight and the antiskating weight are copies and not original. I service only tonearm in original condition. The original counterweights are as spares available, but expensive.

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    Is he wrong?
    DIY DCB1 buffer / EAR 516 power / Quad ESL 57 (One Thing bass panels)
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    I would appreciate if I could be put in contact with someone who knows his way around SME arms.
    DIY DCB1 buffer / EAR 516 power / Quad ESL 57 (One Thing bass panels)
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    Hi Rosewood,
    Contact Alfred at www.smetonearms.com.
    Formally the Canadian distributor, now does re-builds. Knows a lot about SME and still has factory contacts.
    Dan Santoni

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    Thanks Dan.
    I will comtact him.
    Kind regards,
    Peter

    These parts are not original.

    1) The knife edge
    2) the counter weight stub
    3) the counterweight
    4) the rider weight
    5) the ride weight carrier
    6) the headshell is not original = an Ortofon one - I knew that when I bought it
    7) The bias weight support wire is from an "improved" 3009
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    Have you used it?
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    No. Got it in a trade. Wanted to sell it.
    DIY DCB1 buffer / EAR 516 power / Quad ESL 57 (One Thing bass panels)
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    Have you contacted the trader to tell him what you have been advised? I didn't realise fake parts existed. It seems that everything of any value is getting faked these days.

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    Here’s a quick snap shot of my end gear on my original 3012R
    For reference.. if it helps
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    Thanks for the photo. The grub screws are the easiest to tell apart from the original. I may have to take the arm to someone who owns one and make a direct side-by-side comparison.

    Yes I have. He is a private seller and a Dane and he is adamant that everything is original, but contrary to this the evidence is mounting that 6 parts, apart from the headshell that I knew about, are somewhat good copies. Perhaps an earlier owner wanted to use it with a heavier cartridge?

    EDIT: I am in touch with someone who owns an original arm and perhaps I can go for a visit later this week to make a direct comparison.
    DIY DCB1 buffer / EAR 516 power / Quad ESL 57 (One Thing bass panels)
    Vinyl: Empire 698 / Shure M91ED+Rod Elliott mm stage onboard DCB1 / Benz Micro Gullwing SLR + Benz Micro Lukaschek PP1
    Digital: Synology NAS / JRiver on Win 10 PC / Nuforce S192U USB to spdif/ Line Magnetic 502CA DAC

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