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    Just been experimenting on my second system.

    Tisbury passive attenuator.
    Bi-amped Proart amplifiers.
    Dali Zenzor Pico speakers.

    These items just seem to gel. Tried various other speaker/amplifier/pre combinations.

    There's an emotional and dynamic sound that's outstanding for the cost.

    Gary
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    Glad they're working for you Gary . . . .

    Wish I could say the same. I seem to be the only person on AOS who hasn't made them work.

    Super flat and un-involving with my 63's . . . Strange, as users of 57's absolutely rave about them.

    Did Alan's mod too and still couldn't get on with them.

    Oh well nothing ventured etc . . . wasn't a fan of the, errr fan either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti-cal View Post
    Glad they're working for you Gary . . . .

    Wish I could say the same. I seem to be the only person on AOS who hasn't made them work.

    Super flat and un-involving with my 63's . . . Strange, as users of 57's absolutely rave about them.

    Did Alan's mod too and still couldn't get on with them.

    Oh well nothing ventured etc . . . wasn't a fan of the, errr fan either.
    Did you give them chance to run in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti-cal View Post
    Glad they're working for you Gary . . . .

    Wish I could say the same. I seem to be the only person on AOS who hasn't made them work.

    Super flat and un-involving with my 63's . . . Strange, as users of 57's absolutely rave about them.

    Did Alan's mod too and still couldn't get on with them.

    Oh well nothing ventured etc . . . wasn't a fan of the, errr fan either.
    I'm not a fan of the fan either, but I have plans for that

    I think they are pre-amp sensitive if used as power amplifier, I tried other pre-amps and agree with your comments "flat and uninvolving", it was the Tisbury that bought everything to life. So synergy between components rings out again.

    Sorry they didn't work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Did you give them chance to run in?
    A good 3-4 hours a day for 3 days and things did not improve. Running them direct from source sounded okay but it was so far away from where I wanted it to be there would be no break-in improvement possible to even get them close. Tried with two different tube pre-amps but just did nothing for me. Wrong speaker, wrong setup me thinks.

    I'm considering a system overhaul in light of a house move anyway so I may be back to square one as it were!
    - Linn Sondek LP12 - Ittok III, Denon 304, Mose Power Supply - Ming Da MC 368-B - JJ KT88's, RCA 12au7's - Musical Paradise MP-D1 mkII - WE396a
    - Mark Travis Phono Stage - Gold Lion 12ax7's, Tung-Sol 6X4 - AD Audio SUT - Pioneer N-30K
    - Behringer DEQ 2496 - Quad 63's - REL T3 (sometimes)

    - Audio Technica LP5 - AT440mlb - Musical Paradise MP 303 Class D - Jolida Glass FX III - Raytheon 5755 Yellow Print - Beresford Bushmaster II
    - EAR834p Clone - Ei 12ax7's, Sylvania 12au7 in V3 - Cocktail Audio/Novafidelity X12 - 15" Paper Drivers in Tannoy Cabs (lows) - Custom crossover into Tannoy HPD Monitors (highs) - REL T3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder5 View Post
    Just been experimenting on my second system.

    Tisbury passive attenuator.
    Bi-amped Proart amplifiers.
    Dali Zenzor Pico speakers.

    Gary
    How are you doing the bi-amped part Gary? Same signal into both inputs and one O/P to tweeter and one to woofer?

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    i use the zensor pico as left and right speakers in an av system [ as they fit on top of the tannoys ] super little things . can`t think why they stopped making them
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    ohmage wont be an issue but think they are only 84 rated sensitive so that might be. I found they liked a more sensitive speaker, no idea why tho really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post
    How are you doing the bi-amped part Gary? Same signal into both inputs and one O/P to tweeter and one to woofer?
    One amp to each speaker fed from left and right on pre-amp, Pico's only have one terminal so can't separate woofer and tweeter.

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    So you mean monoblocks not bi-amped

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