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    My suspicion is that the Marantz is simply a more enjoyable CD player than the Densen ever was. I owned a Densen B-410 for a while which was purchased off the back of very good reviews and a pretty short demonstration where I praised how 'non-digital' it sounded. While that were true, longer listening sessions established a pattern very quickly in that I never listened any further than around 1/3 of the way through a CD album. That's when it became apparent that the Densen just sounded boring and had no sense of timing or rhythm, so I was hitting eject after about track 4.
    I sold the Densen and the next CD player I bought cost me £5 from a car boot sale and was a Marantz CD53 and upon listening to it, I found exactly the same as you're finding now. A very musically capable and engaging player. It lacked the refinement and tonality of the Densen, but I was listening to CDs all the way through again.
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    Cheers, you guys have had a fair bit to say while I've been away, with some helpful suggestions (apart from the God-bothering ) I am pretty inept technically (I did put the "Dense" in Densen) so it will be for someone else to fix.

    Looking back, I see that I first had a mither about this last October, and Simon (SimonG) suggested contacting Elite Audio. I did this, got an automated out of hours message back saying they would contact me. That was ten months ago, so maybe they need a reminder...

    I don't want to consider the possibility that it may just need the laser lens cleaning - If Mrs. Pony discovered that I'd spent 260 bones replacing something that just needed a wipe, I'd be in a whole world of pain
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    "mither"

    Wow that is a new one on me. Next time swmbo has a moan at me (that will be in roughly 10 minutes time no doubt) I will simple say "Oh please stop mithering." That should stop her in her tracks (for a few minutes!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    "mither"

    Wow that is a new one on me. Next time swmbo has a moan at me (that will be in roughly 10 minutes time no doubt) I will simple say "Oh please stop mithering." That should stop her in her tracks (for a few minutes!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    It's a different world down in the smoke
    The good lady is from wolves.

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    Yow 'cor beat a Black Country wench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    The good lady is from wolves.

    "Brought up bostin and proper ar am."



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    'Ar'm clammed, let's get sum fettle'

    'see him, he's a nors'

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    'Clammed' in Lancashire is hungry, so I'm going to guess at 'I'm hungry lets get some food' the other one seems to suggest someone is a horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMutt View Post
    'Clammed' in Lancashire is hungry, so I'm going to guess at 'I'm hungry lets get some food' the other one seems to suggest someone is a horse.
    Hahaha,.

    Yep, I'm hungry, let's get some food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post

    I don't want to consider the possibility that it may just need the laser lens cleaning - If Mrs. Pony discovered that I'd spent 260 bones replacing something that just needed a wipe, I'd be in a whole world of pain
    I am sure with all those cables that you keep selling you must have nice little hifi piggy bank tucked away by now to think about a replacement CDP.

    Apologies Steve I take this back, I was definitely having a senior moment and muddle you up with Mr Mad-Moon, now he does sell cables.
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