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    Having had QED XT40 SCs, I would say that they are the main culprit for your harsh treble, VD 4mm hifi series would be much better, or possibly some Audioquest Indigo or Jade.
    If the Actors your looking at are the ones on wigwam, then Chris (GLB) would be more than happy for you to go for an audition, and in all likely hood let you have them to listen in your room.
    I had them here a couple of weeks back for the playroom at by BO, and they're definitely not bright.

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    IMHO the ARC's are the best speakers WB made paired with a good fast tight sub a greats set up.

    Having had many pairs pass through over the years including owning the Bishops (lol) they are over priced and under perform.

    Last year we had a pair of £25K Actors?? with the fancy tweeters etc. Never have I been so disappointed in a so called high end speaker, it was totally humiliated by a pair of stand mounts at under half the price. YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. C View Post
    IMHO the ARC's are the best speakers WB made paired with a good fast tight sub a greats set up.

    Having had many pairs pass through over the years including owning the Bishops (lol) they are over priced and under perform.

    Last year we had a pair of £25K Actors?? with the fancy tweeters etc. Never have I been so disappointed in a so called high end speaker, it was totally humiliated by a pair of stand mounts at under half the price. YMMV
    Vectors are also good, but whether double the price against ARC's with a good sub is questionable, the manufacturer of my previous Mono block 300B's used ARC's to demo them so must say something about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovlov854 View Post
    The most obvious answer............go listen
    There is a pair for sale in your area. Take your source and your I/C and go and listen
    I've a feeling its my listening room that is producing the problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
    Having had QED XT40 SCs, I would say that they are the main culprit for your harsh treble, VD 4mm hifi series would be much better, or possibly some Audioquest Indigo or Jade.
    If the Actors your looking at are the ones on wigwam, then Chris (GLB) would be more than happy for you to go for an audition, and in all likely hood let you have them to listen in your room.
    I had them here a couple of weeks back for the playroom at by BO, and they're definitely not bright.
    Funny innit, somebody recommended the QED to tame brightness!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
    Having had QED XT40 SCs, I would say that they are the main culprit for your harsh treble, VD 4mm hifi series would be much better, or possibly some Audioquest Indigo or Jade.
    If the Actors your looking at are the ones on wigwam, then Chris (GLB) would be more than happy for you to go for an audition, and in all likely hood let you have them to listen in your room.
    I had them here a couple of weeks back for the playroom at by BO, and they're definitely not bright.
    Hi John, I might ask him nicely then.
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    I had a pair of Arc standmounts for a while.

    I did feel the tonal balance was a little tipped towards the higher frequencies, but I wouldn't say they were bright.

    I found them a little clinical and cold, however. Extremely detailed, but a little mechanical sounding if that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    I've a feeling its my listening room that is producing the problems.
    Rooms can have a big effect but they don't produce harshness or sibiliance. I'd give another speaker cable a go, QED speaker cables are all weird in some way or another apart from the original 79 strand. It's also a lot cheaper than changing speakers.
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    As others have said, I'd look at replacing the cables. Flashback rca cables sound neutral to me. I use Talk cable 3.1 speaker cable because it's cheap and does the job. I've tried a few audiophile cables in the past and they all seemed to add something, but not in a good way. I'm sure there are some good ones but it seems silly to spend lots of money on a cable when your equipment is full of inductors, voice coils and circuit board tracks that are just bog standard copper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Rooms can have a big effect but they don't produce harshness or sibiliance. I'd give another speaker cable a go, QED speaker cables are all weird in some way or another apart from the original 79 strand. It's also a lot cheaper than changing speakers.
    Ive had three or four of the QEDs over the years amongst other cables.

    The Silver Spiral being the best by far and not 'weird' in anyway, far from it
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