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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Sure it will over weekend. And if I do I might put them on here first before discogs, top book is about 9k for them all. Obviously won't manage that but will get a decent % as they are mostly n mint or better
    Going on previous posts I would say that Grant's taste in music is very similar to mine, and I have no doubt the condition of them would be first rate. Apart from the few that ended up rolling across the carpet
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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    Given the choice I would favour a near mint used original over a new reissue, which often seem to me a bit dull and slow sounding. I have wondered whether these heavyweight vinyls mess with the VTA a bit, as I'm told 2M Blacks are a bit finnicky.
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Sure it will over weekend. And if I do I might put them on here first before discogs, top book is about 9k for them all. Obviously won't manage that but will get a decent % as they are mostly n mint or better
    OK Grant deal

    Your choise , 9K of steak / Chicken / Lamb / mince / beer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Given the choice I would favour a near mint used original over a new reissue
    Same as this, though usually for sentimental over SQ reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    OK Grant deal

    Your choise , 9K of steak / Chicken / Lamb / mince / beer
    Gold?
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    I find the new pressings deteriorate very quickly. For example I bought the new Rory Gallagher album "Blues" and it is already crackling mainly at the beginning and end of the side. This happens frequently with new purchases even though this one was pushing £30 and they sometimes sound a bit flat.

    Whereas,Live in Europe which is an old mangy copy costing £1 plays with more life to the sound albeit with a few more crackles.

    I have a big soft spot for the old Decca full frequency and Island labels (palm and pink). That is where the magic is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slawts View Post
    I find the new pressings deteriorate very quickly. For example I bought the new Rory Gallagher album "Blues" and it is already crackling mainly at the beginning and end of the side. This happens frequently with new purchases even though this one was pushing £30 and they sometimes sound a bit flat.

    Whereas,Live in Europe which is an old mangy copy costing £1 plays with more life to the sound albeit with a few more crackles.

    I have a big soft spot for the old Decca full frequency and Island labels (palm and pink). That is where the magic is!
    is your arm and cart bang on? can be the cause of outer/inner wear, mistracking
    Regards,
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    is your arm and cart bang on? can be the cause of outer/inner wear, mistracking
    Yes it is and has happened for quite a few years through various cartridge changes. I bought Aerial by Kate Bush when that came out and David Gilmour Live in Gdansk and both suffer.

    Cartridges used have been Musicman moving iron, Ortofon Bronze, Benz Wood SL, Goldring Eroica, Koetsu Black and Ortofon Jubilee. They are not rusty old nails and I don't find a problem with older vinyl.

    I am not convinced that the virgin vinyl pizzas that we are sold are that good. They seem very fragile and sensitive. Even my 70's RCA's play better except for Aladdin Sane which is trashed.
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    I have always felt older vinyl was tougher than the new stuff. Also not using virgin vinyl can have an effect, as can 200gm stuff as its thick enough to potentially cause occasional no fill.
    Start of record has more than twice the grove distance per second to the end as well so that can affect things.
    Alas vinyl can be problematic... my old 50's 60's records are tougher and play better than a lot of so called modern versions.. over stamping and poor quality control
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slawts View Post
    Yes it is and has happened for quite a few years through various cartridge changes. I bought Aerial by Kate Bush when that came out and David Gilmour Live in Gdansk and both suffer.

    Cartridges used have been Musicman moving iron, Ortofon Bronze, Benz Wood SL, Goldring Eroica, Koetsu Black and Ortofon Jubilee. They are not rusty old nails and I don't find a problem with older vinyl.

    I am not convinced that the virgin vinyl pizzas that we are sold are that good. They seem very fragile and sensitive. Even my 70's RCA's play better except for Aladdin Sane which is trashed.
    Aerial by Kate Bush (Fish People) is quite well known for being a crap pressing, so that's probably going to sound bad whatever you do. That, combined with the silly prices asked for used copies persuaded me to go CD on that one

    I think maybe the pressing plants are not taking the upturn in vinyl sales seriously, and are perhaps not prepared to pay for any proper investment or maintenance of equipment. Also all the folk who used to work for these places have long since retired or passed on to "side two". And maybe the replacement guys lack the talent/passion/raw materials to do the job properly. Just my theory.
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: Zu Omen Def, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

    T'other system:
    Echo Dot, Amptastic Mini One,Arcam A75 integrated, Celestion 5's, BK XLS-200 DF

    A/V:
    LG 55" OLED, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL Storm sub

    Forget the past, it's gone. And don't worry about the future, it doesn't exist. There is only NOW.

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