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    Join Date: Nov 2014

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    I'm Michael.

    Default Radio 3 FM Quality.

    Has any one noticed that Radio 3 sound quality on FM is distorted? The analogy being similar to a cartridge mistracking.
    Radio 4 is fine, Radio 2 suffers a little bit. Online is fine, so is Classic FM on FM. Local radio (Radio WM) is okay on FM.
    Listening on headphones really shows it up. My transmitter is Sutton Coldfield which has “no reported problems” according to the BBC transmitter checker.
    I have complained to the BBC about it, but as yet i haven’t had a reply.

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    I don't listen to R3, but it is notorious for being at an averagely low level compared with the other BBC stations, and this does present SQ problems. (Used to listen to Late Junction before it was run by fans of smart arses with samplers.)

    Optimod is something to consider, it adds artefacts.

    Personally, as an ex BBC engineer, I am of the view that they are not bothered about SQ, and I'm not even sure that they have the staff able to produce good sound anyway. I remember just how good it was in the early 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    I don't listen to R3, but it is notorious for being at an averagely low level compared with the other BBC stations, and this does present SQ problems. (Used to listen to Late Junction before it was run by fans of smart arses with samplers.)

    Optimod is something to consider, it adds artefacts.

    Personally, as an ex BBC engineer, I am of the view that they are not bothered about SQ, and I'm not even sure that they have the staff able to produce good sound anyway. I remember just how good it was in the early 70s.
    Perhaps ask the BBC if they have any motivation toward forming a consultative group. A national broadcaster always needs community direction with what it does,
    and this suggests as a very good example.

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    Dab is a pup...a disgrace! I have abandoned it for the freeview transmission but I would prefer to listen to FM

    We now have a situation where they seem to have been tinkering with the sound quality of FM for a long time.

    Its a mess...a whitewash for their own twisted reasoning

    I like the guy that sent this to ofcom

    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse...8036/waugh.pdf
    " Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?"

    'I can't explain myself, I'm afraid, sir' said Alice, 'because I'm not myself, you see.'.

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    "Perhaps ask the BBC if they have any motivation toward forming a consultative group. A national broadcaster always needs community direction with what it does, and this suggests as a very good example. "

    Yes Chris, I am actually going to write an extensive and in depth analysis of the BBC's deterioration in performance, which I consider to have occurred in most areas, later this year when my own life is back on its tracks. I will slaughter them.

    Their failings extend well beyond just the technical quality of FM, and their inept use of Optimod, the settings of which are kept locked away in a safe I understand.

    Where are the equivalents of John Peel's Top Gear, Mike Sparrow's Breakthrough, and Steve something's Sounds Interesting, the Late Junction was at least investigative of new music, that is, until the smart arses with samplers brigade took over from world music.

    It was on R4 that a member of the public phoned in and complained that the BBC was having a 'big party', and I agree, and we are paying for it, and obliged to listen to their self indulgent crap patronisingly spoken, the equivalemnt of sending a picture to people of a meal one is about to consume.

    Once they get a licence renewal go-ahead from the government, they are insulated from public criticism, and become unaware of just how much contempt so many have for the now usurped organisation, run by a liberal elite of mediocre graduates, who are self promoting overpaid and talentless, waiting for the next broadcasting opportunity to earn even more money to come along when they have been 'talent spotted'.

    They are promoting DAB, and failing, I have several friends who had adopted it to then eschew it and return to FM, and yes it is outdated by DAB+.

    Martins link states valid points, but there is so much more - just listen to the audio quality on R4, a speech channel whose function is to communicate intelligence, it is abysmal.

    I also remember that in the mid 70s I was going to complain to them about their wrong usage of intonation, my going to suggest that they had a room entitled "Bizarre Intonation Dept", this being a function of journalism and English, and I did phone them up and complain about their poor tape edits. Rant ended, for now.

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