Garrard 301 bearing upgrades??

[Beobloke]

I’d be intrigued to hear a Shindo modified unit but I think the oversized platter looks daft and, if you read his philosophies, they seem to be more based on mysticism, fairy dust and witchcraft than sound engineering principles!

[WESTLOWER]

It's a shame the NWA bearing is no longer available. I found this to be excellent.

+1 on that. It gave my 401 more authority and ease of presentation.
Nicely engineered thing indeed.

[Wakefield Turntables]

The main plus point from what I know about the grease bearing Garrard 301 is certainly not the bearing but the thigh torque motor which provides a great sence of drive. I have heard a hammertone 301with a oil bearing sounding just sublime it was by far the most musical 301 I have ever heard. If I were to go for it the greese bearing 301 with a shindo bearing and platter would be as far as one would need to go to obtain the Holy grail of 301's.

Very, very, rare, and extremely overpriced. The shindo bearing and platter can be more or less purchased from classic turntable company for a fraction of the price. Where do you think the idea came from for CTC to produce the bearings and platters?

[WESTLOWER]

The shindo bearing and platter can be more or less purchased from classic turntable company for a fraction of the price.

You've heard a back to back comparison?!

[Wakefield Turntables]

You've heard a back to back comparison?!

The company is based 1mile from where I live so it wouldn't be difficult. He also uses several differing materials so a back to back comparison is pointless you'd need the same materials shindo uses, additionally you'd need a solid cherry plinth and not the American cherry that Layers of beauty produce. The Japanese cherry wood is a different kettle of fish. You can drive yourself nuts trying to find "the best" bearing, or platter, all irrelevant, it's what sounds best to your ears.

[WESTLOWER]

The company is based 1mile from where I live so it wouldn't be difficult. He also uses several differing materials so a back to back comparison is pointless you'd need the same materials shindo uses, additionally you'd need a solid cherry plinth and not the American cherry that Layers of beauty produce. The Japanese cherry wood is a different kettle of fish. You can drive yourself nuts trying to find "the best" bearing, or platter, all irrelevant, it's what sounds best to your ears.

Ok, So Ray's CTC version isn't a valid comparison if it is substantially different to the Shindo.
Not justifying the cost of the Shindo, but it is what it is,... a Unique product.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Ok, So Ray's CTC version isn't a valid comparison if it is substantially different to the Shindo.
Not justifying the cost of the Shindo, but it is what it is,... a Unique product.

I have to disagree. He's producing a product which produces the same effects as the shindo. An enlarged platter and a beefed up bearing. Completely pointless if you ask me. Platter speed stability is more important to me rather than a fancy named platter costing £xxxxx I wouldn't buy a shIndo or CTC bearing or platter.

[WESTLOWER]

He's producing a product which produces the same effects as the shindo.

But is he really?
Thats a big claim and seemingly unproven as you haven't had the opportunity to do the comparison with the Shindo TT.

I don't doubt CTC product, but sweeping claims of this or that are without ground.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Depends on how you interpret what I've said.

[WESTLOWER]

Depends on how you interpret what I've said.

'He's producing a product which produces the same effects as the shindo.''



not much room for misinterpretation there..