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    i played around with these in the late 70s. I believe they were made by Furukawa, who made cables for many other brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    Thanks guys. They are very good indeed.

    I'm surprised in the quality of the presence they give.

    They do seem to have a bit of a following.



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    Josie, you seem to be suggesting that cables make a difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pieoftheday View Post
    Josie, you seem to be suggesting that cables make a difference?
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    I still use Hitachi 102 ssx speaker cable, still very happy with it and no intention of changing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Moi?... Yes.. I do.

    Cables do make a difference but only certain ones do it for the better. - Now, if that's not a brilliant quote I don't know what is. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Are those the same cables as the SAX-102 as used by Josie?
    Hi Barry,

    Sorry but did not visit and not sure who is Josie.

    Photos are my qax-112 and new 6nax-210 ... look for qax-112 if you like qax-102 since more of all the positive "presence" or "naturalness" mentioned here aka midrange. Dun bother with the elusive 6nax-210 as it is near impossible as it was 4 times of almost 40k yen and not many sold 30 yrs ago like the 10k qax-112 or cheapest qax-102.

    Last that I should mention ia that both qax-102 and qax-112 should be with original factory tetminated ofc rca ... I see a lot reterminated one and they are probably with intention to mislead that they are original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    i played around with these in the late 70s. I believe they were made by Furukawa, who made cables for many other brands.
    Furukawa and Hitachi differs:

    Is it the mid-1980s, the heyday of audio?
    It was a time when it was widely recognized that the sound changed with a cable.
    In Japan as well, major electric wire manufacturers enthusiastically developed and each was a masterpiece.
    Broadly classified, the direction is to remove impurities from conductors and improve the purity of materials.
    The other is a vector that improves signal transduction loss by reducing boundaries at the copper crystal level.
    (Later, materials that have pushed these two directions will be developed.)
    The former is typically Ortofon, Acrotec, SAEC, etc. (8n / 7n / 6n, etc.)
    The latter was famous for Furukawa Electric's "PC-OCC" and Hitachi Cable's "LC-OFC".
    Both Furukawa and Hitachi supplied OEM products to each company, and there were examples of adoption by many manufacturers.
    Unfortunately, both FURUKAWA and HITACHI have stopped production for management reasons.
    I think the contributions made by the two companies to the audio world have been enormous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    The other week I replaced my Mark grants with these beauties.

    A full set of Hitachi SAX-102 interconnects. I don't know how old they are but they are pretty amazing.

    Not sure but I think they were made in the 80s.

    Has anyone tried these?




    I had a pair of these in the early '80. I thought them no better than other cables I was using at the time. They are of so-called "semi-balanced" construction; that is they use a double core screened cable, where the signal return is connected to the screen at one end only. They are thus directional so that the screen is connected at the source end (with the arrows printed on the cable's outer jacket points away from the source and points towards to the load).

    By chance I have just unearthed the Hitachi data sheet that came with the cables:



    HITACHI LC-OFC INTERCONNECTING CABLE

    SAX-102 is a high grade interconnecting cable for Audio and Video equipment, using LC-OFC (Linear Crystal Oxygen-Free-Copper) as conductor.
    LC-OFC is the most suitable material for Audio and Video purposes.
    This product is a pin-cord made with SAX-102 for use with Audio and Video systems.

    FEATURES

    1. Clear sound with minimal distortion.
    2. Superior electrical distortion
    3. Durability due to inner plastic molding of the pin-plug
    4. Use of 24k plated pin-plugs

    CONSTRUCTION AND CHARACTERISTICS
    Conductor: Size 0.2mm2
    Conductor: Stranding 50/0.08mm
    Conductor: Diameter 0.65mm
    Insulation (Polyethylene) Diameter: 1.65mm
    Inner Jacket (Polyethylene) Diameter: 4.00mm
    Shield: Braid
    Jacket (PVC) Diameter: 6.00mm
    Conductor Resistance (at 20oC): 80 Ohm/km
    Capacity (at 1 KHz): 50pF/m
    Impedance (at 10 MHz): 65 Ohm
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