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  1. #1
    Join Date: Nov 2011

    Location: Seaton, Devon, UK

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    I'm Adrian.

    Default These are a NO BRAINER IMO!

    So a few weeks ago a fellow AoS'er contacted me about SUT's and he told me that he had replaced his interconnects with Belden 8402 w/ Switchcraft 3502A Audiophile High-End RCA ones. He said I should give them a try as they very very good in his opinion.

    A pair arrived yesterday and this morning I decided to try them out the results are below, I will let you make you own judgements.

    You can source the ones I purchased at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Belden-84...72.m2749.l2649 if you want to give them a try.





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    Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes


    Voyd the Voyd (slighty modded)JELCO TK850M(10"), Benz Micro LP-S & Michel Cusis MC cartridge, Furutech AG-12-R4 High Performance Phono Cable, LFD MMC special phono stage, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi to Beresford Caiman SEG DAC, Sony 3d blu-Ray for CDs to Caiman SEG, ALLNIC T1500 MKII SET 300B amp, Tannoy Legacy Arden speakers and JBL L100 Century's , Chord Epic speaker leads, & signature links, the Eccose Conductor CA1 cd to pre, I think I am approaching my audio nirvana, but donít tell anyone

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    Join Date: Nov 2010

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    I'm AnDreW.

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    So your starting out on the "real" sound journey. welcome!
    SS

    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU+Dorado DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE

    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modified) AMP Sondex S100 (Modified) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECKS Garrard301/401 (Bastin) Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister v2 / Royall N SPU's CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker 10mm Cu + WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box Modded) / EAR 834 Clone (modded)

    REAL SOUND


    PRE Radford SC25 (Mullard ECC83/82) POWER RADFORD STA25 Renaissance (Electroharmonix EL34) SPEAKERS Celestion Ditton 15 (Duelund Rewired/Jantzen Recapped) CABLES Speaker - Duelund AWG 12IC - Belden 8402+Switchcraft RCA

    WEBSITE - WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/WAKEFIELDAUDIO

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    Join Date: Nov 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    So your starting out on the "real" sound journey. welcome!
    I have been pursuing "Real Sound" as you put it on and off for the past 40 years, and have taken a variety of paths some right some wrong and a few dead ends, but I think I am getting nearer to a system that satisfies my ears anyway.
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    Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes


    Voyd the Voyd (slighty modded)JELCO TK850M(10"), Benz Micro LP-S & Michel Cusis MC cartridge, Furutech AG-12-R4 High Performance Phono Cable, LFD MMC special phono stage, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi to Beresford Caiman SEG DAC, Sony 3d blu-Ray for CDs to Caiman SEG, ALLNIC T1500 MKII SET 300B amp, Tannoy Legacy Arden speakers and JBL L100 Century's , Chord Epic speaker leads, & signature links, the Eccose Conductor CA1 cd to pre, I think I am approaching my audio nirvana, but donít tell anyone

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    Join Date: Nov 2010

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    Have you seen Jeff Day's work? I have a 3rd system with a full loom of Duelund and Belden cabling. I have Belden IC's bewteen my Radford pre and power amps, and into the phonostage. I have Duelund speaker cable and I have rewired my Celestion Ditton 15 speakers with Duelund cabling. It does sound good!
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU+Dorado DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE

    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modified) AMP Sondex S100 (Modified) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECKS Garrard301/401 (Bastin) Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister v2 / Royall N SPU's CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker 10mm Cu + WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box Modded) / EAR 834 Clone (modded)

    REAL SOUND


    PRE Radford SC25 (Mullard ECC83/82) POWER RADFORD STA25 Renaissance (Electroharmonix EL34) SPEAKERS Celestion Ditton 15 (Duelund Rewired/Jantzen Recapped) CABLES Speaker - Duelund AWG 12IC - Belden 8402+Switchcraft RCA

    WEBSITE - WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/WAKEFIELDAUDIO

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    Join Date: Nov 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Have you seen Jeff Day's work? I have a 3rd system with a full loom of Duelund and Belden cabling. I have Belden IC's bewteen my Radford pre and power amps, and into the phonostage. I have Duelund speaker cable and I have rewired my Celestion Ditton 15 speakers with Duelund cabling. It does sound good!
    I am not aware of Jeff Day, probably my loss? I find it very interesting that the Dueland and Belden cables produce great results and are such VFM. I have always been quite sceptical about very high priced cables and the justification of their prices. That is not to say that they may not be good or producing great results but I always thought that there could very good cables out there that were sensibly priced and gave great results.
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    Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes


    Voyd the Voyd (slighty modded)JELCO TK850M(10"), Benz Micro LP-S & Michel Cusis MC cartridge, Furutech AG-12-R4 High Performance Phono Cable, LFD MMC special phono stage, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi to Beresford Caiman SEG DAC, Sony 3d blu-Ray for CDs to Caiman SEG, ALLNIC T1500 MKII SET 300B amp, Tannoy Legacy Arden speakers and JBL L100 Century's , Chord Epic speaker leads, & signature links, the Eccose Conductor CA1 cd to pre, I think I am approaching my audio nirvana, but donít tell anyone

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    Join Date: Nov 2010

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    I'm AnDreW.

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    Jeff loves his Belden IC's and Duelund cabling. He's produced many articles. Here's a link, fill your boots https://jeffsplace.positive-feedback...o-jeffs-place/
    SS

    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU+Dorado DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE

    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modified) AMP Sondex S100 (Modified) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECKS Garrard301/401 (Bastin) Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister v2 / Royall N SPU's CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker 10mm Cu + WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box Modded) / EAR 834 Clone (modded)

    REAL SOUND


    PRE Radford SC25 (Mullard ECC83/82) POWER RADFORD STA25 Renaissance (Electroharmonix EL34) SPEAKERS Celestion Ditton 15 (Duelund Rewired/Jantzen Recapped) CABLES Speaker - Duelund AWG 12IC - Belden 8402+Switchcraft RCA

    WEBSITE - WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/WAKEFIELDAUDIO

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    im in!
    My System
    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon KB with vienna upgrade
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers
    KARMA Interconnects & Tonearm Cable

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    although i'll wait till you score my interconnect first
    My System
    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon KB with vienna upgrade
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers
    KARMA Interconnects & Tonearm Cable

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    Adrian, how long it take for the cables to arrive from Greece after you placed the order? And did the seller use a tracked service?

    Cheers
    Main: Tidal/Roon > MiniITX > Metrum Hex > LDR > either Radford STA25 V or Trilogy 968 > Tannoy (Eaton or Berkeley).
    2nd: Tidal/Roon > Roopio on Pi > Chevron Paradox > Firebottle Buffer > Sugden Masterclass IA-4 > Kudos Cardea


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    Belden 19364 is the best mains cable I have used, and I have tried quite a few!

    e.g. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mains-pow...53.m1438.l2649

    EDIT .... make sure you get one with the IEC connector you need.
    The above link is for a C19 High Current connector (needed for my Airlink balanced PSU!).
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    Jerry

    i. Internet streaming > Various and varying electronics and cables > MBL 116F speakers

    ii Internet streaming > Audiolab MDAC > Marantz HD-AMP1 > Infinity Cascade 9 speakers & Jamo SUB200

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