Can you ever go back to belt drive?

[Marco]

After I sold my modded SL1210 and bought a Gyro SE, I quickly noticed W&F, I even tried an upgraded psu, two belts on a double pulley and nothing fixed it. I sold it a few weeks later and bought the LP12 in 2016. This was much better, however I then bought and an SL1200G and was actually quickly disappointed in the quality of sustained notes on the LP12 for double the price but due to financial reasons had to sell the SL1200G.

I'm now browsing my old yt videos and realise that comparing them to the LP12 the Technics does indeed have better pitch and that's a clincher for me, I've never been happy with any cassette deck for this reason so must be extra sensitive to it.

I have a yt video of my previous 1200G running, here is a link. Please delete if needed.

https://youtu.be/0PzNrcB3Iks That just sounds right to me...

Thanks for the summary of your experience in that area, which largely mirrors my own. Interesting you mention electronic music, in relation to pitch, and how those sounds are more accurately reproduced digitally - a point on which I would entirely agree. In the same way, to my ears, direct-drive turntables get that right (are more accurate, in terms of pitch) than in general are belt-drive T/Ts, when reproducing that type of music.

I don't believe that any of this is imagined; simply that no-one we know of has so far managed to successfully measure the effects.

I'll watch your YT video later

Marco.

[Marco]

I am not surprised you noticed W&F on the Gyrodec SE, I also had one and after much playing around and using the now infamous Pete's Pylon's reduced the problem greatlyamd I measure the improvement. The prime issue with the Michell TT's is the suspension system which is conical springs and the the motor being not mounted on the chassis, the parts that hold the springs allow the chassis to float in the wind not only vertically but also horizontally, so as the belt move the plate the chassis is susceptible to twisting hence W&F.

I have now moved to a Void TT, yes belt drive but much more stable due to its 3 motors, and also has a nicer tone to it than a Gyrodec, to my ears anyway.

Yup, I completely concur. Gyros have always been poor in that respect, which as you say is why Pete's Pylons work so well - simply because there exists something fundamental to fix!

Marco.

[Marco]

Agreed

Well, if that's the case, then you know what to do!

Marco.

[allthingsanalogue]

Well, if that's the case, then you know what to do!

Marco.

Selling a Linn isn't easy though as there's absolutely no way I can post it, don't know how ebay sellers post them but I wouldn't risk it!

[Marco]

Collection only, Andrew, unless you have the original box and all the packaging. If it's a nice enough example, the price is right, and someone wants it [and LP12s are certainly popular enough], then someone will be willing to travel and collect it.

In the past, I've driven all over the UK to buy stuff I wanted, such as from Glasgow to Bath, to buy a pair of Spendor SP1s, and from Wrexham to Cornwall, to buy my Lockwood Majors! As they say, where there's a will, there's a way

Marco.

[AJSki2fly]

Tom Evans lent me a psu for my Gyro and he described the Gyro as 'it's as stable as stirring a wooden spoon in porridge'!

an accurate description I think though.

[allthingsanalogue]

Collection only, Andrew, unless you have the original box and all the packaging. If it's a nice enough example, the price is right, and someone wants it [and LP12s are certainly popular enough], then someone will be willing to travel and collect it.

In the past, I've driven all over the UK to buy stuff I wanted, such as from Glasgow to Bath, to buy a pair of Spendor SP1s, and from Wrexham to Cornwall, to buy my Lockwood Majors! As they say, where there's a will, there's a way

Marco.

My Lp12



Inspired by this photo found online! Any deck has to have 78 for me!

[Marco]

Nice LP12, Andrew. Which arm is that on the Techy?

Marco.

[allthingsanalogue]

Nice LP12, Andrew. Which arm is that on the Techy?

Marco.

Thanks Marco.

Obviously not my Techy but think it's one of the new Jelco TK850S arms and one of Hugo's fanatastic arm boards.

[Marco]

Ah, I didn't look at the pic closely enough... But yes, that's a lovely looking arm & board combo, which compliments the turntable perfectly! No doubt it sounds it, too

Marco.