Opinions on a watch sale issue needed.

[thingfish]

Rich, the guy bought it and broke it.

End of.

[Roy S]

Waterproof to 30 metres means it is splash proof, not to be immersed in water.

Exactly right. Washing any watch in hot soapy water strikes me as daft anyway, he's probably ruined it.

[stairpost]

Thanks for all the input, it's much appreciated.

I am going to try to help if I can by contacting the seller I purchased it from, but if that proves fruitless I shall accept no further responsibility. As has been said, he could have done anything to it. I won't entertain the idea of providing a refund.

He was very much on the favourable side of a past deal, in which on reflection I regretted letting a small collection go for less that I would have liked. I'm not in any way saying I'm glad that this has happened, far from it, but that's the nature of it, all sales are final.

[stairpost]

Waterproof to 30 metres means it is splash proof, not to be immersed in water. I think your buyer did not understand this and has immersed in water, not your fault, lots of info on this if you Google it.

The watch has been compromised by the buyers action, I wouldn't accept any responsiblity, any value in the watch has been destroyed.

Gary

That's my understanding too, I would have considered it splash proof. The buyer is actually an avid watch fan and has quite a collection. So I'm surprised and slightly suspicious about the damage to be honest.

[mikeyb]

Probably dropped it in the sink

[Lawrence001]

Thanks for all the input, it's much appreciated.

I am going to try to help if I can by contacting the seller I purchased it from, but if that proves fruitless I shall accept no further responsibility. As has been said, he could have done anything to it. I won't entertain the idea of providing a refund.

He was very much on the favourable side of a past deal, in which on reflection I regretted letting a small collection go for less that I would have liked. I'm not in any way saying I'm glad that this has happened, far from it, but that's the nature of it, all sales are final.

He sounds like a chancer to me. 100% his own fault. Bloody cheeky to ask for a refund in my opinion, you shouldn't even be asking yourself, just shows the moral difference between you.

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[Edward]

It was a private sale and you made no representations so Caveat Emptor.

However if there is a guarantee of some sort and it is transferable then the buyer should simply get in touch with the guarantor.

Making yourself a postbox between the owner and the guarantor will simply result in frustration on your part.

[Macca]

'Waterproof to 30 meters' should mean just that. If it was just splashproof or 'water resistant' then that's what they'd say. So you should be able to drop it in a sink full of water with no issues.

Legally he has no comeback, he bought it in person and no incorrect claims were made by the seller so I believe caveat emptor applies.

[montesquieu]

Waterproof to 30 metres means it is splash proof, not to be immersed in water. I think your buyer did not understand this and has immersed in water, not your fault, lots of info on this if you Google it.

The watch has been compromised by the buyers action, I wouldn't accept any responsiblity, any value in the watch has been destroyed.

Gary

This. Designation of 30m means it pressure tests to 30m in an air tank. Soap can compromise rubber seals lowering their effectiveness. The buyer may be a nice chap as you say but he's either completely ignorant about what 30m means, or he is taking the proverbial. Let him take this question to any watch forum and ask, he'll get this same answer.

In any case a vintage watch like this carries no guarantee about the performance of the seals and anyone who professed to be a watch collector would know this.

'Waterproof to 30 meters' should mean just that. If it was just splashproof or 'water resistant' then that's what they'd say. So you should be able to drop it in a sink full of water with no issues.

Rated 30m water resistance does not equal 'waterproof to 30 meters'. You don't drop it in the sink or use it in the shower, that's a misunderstanding.

[Macca]

This. Designation of 30m means it pressure tests to 30m in an air tank. Soap can compromise rubber seals lowering their effectiveness. The buyer may be a nice chap as you say but he's either completely ignorant about what 30m means, or he is taking the proverbial. Let him take this question to any watch forum and ask, he'll get this same answer.

In any case a vintage watch like this carries no guarantee about the performance of the seals and anyone who professed to be a watch collector would know this.





Rated 30m water resistance does not equal 'waterproof to 30 meters'. You don't drop it in the sink or use it in the shower, that's a misunderstanding.

Fair enough, what I know about watches could be written on a postage stamp.