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    Friend of mine has ordered a new Ford Focus with all the bells and whistles and was quoted a 12 to 17 week waiting time. It's being built in Germany (Saarlouis I guess) and you do have to wonder as to why it takes so long. I mean in the War they were being bombed round the clock but they could still knock out a Tiger tank in less than a week so it's anyone's guess as to why a Focus takes so long.

    Anyway it has been 12 weeks so she has contacted the dealer to see if it is ready. And apparently it is, but it will take six weeks to ship it to the UK!

    Anyone have some inside knowledge as to what that's all about? Why would it sit around in the factory for over a month before they put it on a transporter?
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    Most of the car companies are now making to order only rather than have lots of cars sitting in compounds. It suits them, but not the buyer. even bmw are doing it.
    I went to Toyota who dont operate that way and had mine in under 4 weeks.
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    I wouldn't buy a car that I had to wait that long for. That's probably what happens when you let a woman look at the options list.
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    I think I would sooner wait for one to be built rather than have one that had been sat around in a compound for god knows how long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I wouldn't buy a car that I had to wait that long for. That's probably what happens when you let a woman look at the options list.
    I'll tell her you said that

    Thing is if the car is built now but won't get here for another six weeks then surely it is sat around in a compound for six weeks anyway? To what purpose?

    Unless they deliver them by tying a couple of donkeys to the front bumper and towing it all the way from Germany to here. Even then it wouldn't take six weeks.
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    I'm guessing that they probably don't assign a single driver to transport each car, but rather have scheduled (possibly, monthly) shipments. Assuming that they go to a central UK destination first, there is probably a further delay of a week or two for the individual cars to be despatched to individual dealers.

    Frankly, it doesn't sound that long a wait to me.

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    Centuries ago I worked for Chrysler and shipped vehicles from the USA to various Latin American countries and to the Caribbean, shipping out of Baltimore. Typically it would take 6-8 weeks from order to delivery of the vehicle to the end dealer.

    I guess your friend has been caught up with 'logistics' which is meant to streamline things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    I'm guessing that they probably don't assign a single driver to transport each car, but rather have scheduled (possibly, monthly) shipments. Assuming that they go to a central UK destination first, there is probably a further delay of a week or two for the individual cars to be despatched to individual dealers.

    Frankly, it doesn't sound that long a wait to me.
    I didn't imagine they would get someone to drive each car over individually but you can get 8(?) cars on a transporter and that only needs one driver.

    Take your point about them coming to some sort of distribution point in the UK first but 6 weeks from finished car rolling off the production line to actual delivery to the customer still seems like an unnecessarily long time though.
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    mine was on a boat... it had my spec and was due in 3 weeks.. then a week from landing to dealership. I could have got a black one in 14 days as another boat was due in.... but they ship from Japan and Turkey.. From Germany, it depends how they are shipped. could be train or Ship.. but its a lot closer so the wait time is not right. once on uk soil it shouldnt take much more than a week; 2 at most.
    BMW said to me 3 to 4 months...maybe... i said shove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Most of the car companies are now making to order only rather than have lots of cars sitting in compounds. It suits them, but not the buyer. even bmw are doing it.
    I went to Toyota who dont operate that way and had mine in under 4 weeks.
    Strangely Toyota were the originator of the build to order, when the body in white hits the paint booth it's sprayed it's colour, during this time the parts for this particular variant (diesel, petrol, engine size, interior etc) are called for from the manufacturers (the manufacturers have satellite sites very close to Toyota's plant). There isn't any stock.

    I worked for a brake tube manufacturer and typically had a cluster of brake and fuel lines made and delivered trackside to the appropriate station within 5 minutes, they were specific to that particular car.

    Toyota were the first manufacturer to utilize "Lean Thinking" as a way to keep costs for everything as slim as possible.

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    Written by guys from MIT, Womac, Jones and Roose (I may have misspelt their names), both a good read if you are interested in automotive production.

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