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  1. #71
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    Hello all,

    l I spent the afternoon listening to the tracks below, using the KARMA phono cable, I did not introduce the RCA cable as did not want to confuse matters. It is a very good time for me to listen to the KARMA as I have added two weeks ago the EAR MC4 SUT, to the set up with the LFD phono set to MM, this has opened up the sound stage and clarity greatly, the LFD phono cable is pure copper and is on loan, this gives even greater detail than the Furutech, but I could live with either, however the setup with the EAR MC4 and the LFD phono cable is the best I have had it to date. So having done a lot of listening to these tracks recently replacing the LFD with the KARMA cable would be interesting.

    I have attached hopefully readable snap shots of the spreadsheet with my comments for each track, I know it is a bit anal but I find this process works for me if I want to try a system change out. I try and be as objective as possible and make meaningful comments, and also try and ignore the cost of something, this is definitely the case with the KARMA as I have no idea what it will be sold for or what it is constructed of.

    The review marks and comments for the Furutech and LFD cables I did previously with the set up as stated. I listened to each track with the LFD initially and then swapped to the KARMA and listened to the same track again. I can do so due to having a short hi quality Cardas cable form arm to a male 5 pin din. By swapping for each track I find I am able to hear differences better.

    I hope you will be able to read these below OK, it was the only way I could think of posting them. I will send a PDF copy of this to Jamie for his reference.

    As you will see the KARMA is a rather good cable IMHO, with a caveat depending on personal preferences and how you like your system to sound.

    Thanks

    Adrian












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    Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner

    Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive

    Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp

    Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones

    Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links


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  2. #72
    Join Date: May 2011

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    Now that's how to evaluate a cable . Superb stuff Adrian . Looks like Jamie's on to a winner here
    Regards
    Brian

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    Thorough!

    Great result.

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    Very pleased for Jamie, all that hard work and research is really paying off.
    Very well done to Adrian, that has to be the best way to show ones findings and thoughts. Better than any magazine review I've ever seen.
    Turntable
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian7633 View Post
    Very pleased for Jamie, all that hard work and research is really paying off.
    Very well done to Adrian, that has to be the best way to show ones findings and thoughts. Better than any magazine review I've ever seen.
    Thanks Ian and for all the other kind comments. It’s the only way I find that I can get a meaningful picture of what is going on when I change an aspect of my system. I have tried other ways but always find I end up confused or forget what I heard in the first place, so it becomes a mess then.

    My other reason for posting it was to try and point out just how good these cables are, I was being quite picky about certain aspects, and thE KARMA as it is now performs pretty well IMO.
    Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.

    Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner

    Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive

    Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp

    Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones

    Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links


    I think I am nearing audio nirvana, but don’t tell anyone.

  6. #76
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    thanks again adrian,im very pleased with your findings and excellently wrtten review
    My System
    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

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    Good effort!

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  8. #78
    Join Date: Sep 2014

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    a good results for my phono/turntable cable ,i cant wait to see how the interconnect gets on
    My System
    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

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    Looks like you have one very satisfied customer there!
    Barry

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    WOW! Excellent review.
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