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    Hi everyone,

    I'm new here and I'd like to share a question with you.
    I have a technics 1210 with an original tonearm, rewired (rca's and tonearm cable) and a gold note ph-10 pre-amp. Till now I have MM cartridges and want to buy a better MC cartridge. After some readings and get a good price for hana's I'm think about to buy a hana's cartridge. So, the question is Hana SL or Hana ML, do you think I'll get everything hana ML can do with a original technics tonearm?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souldust View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I'm new here and I'd like to share a question with you.
    I have a technics 1210 with an original tonearm, rewired (rca's and tonearm cable) and a gold note ph-10 pre-amp. Till now I have MM cartridges and want to buy a better MC cartridge. After some readings and get a good price for hana's I'm think about to buy a hana's cartridge. So, the question is Hana SL or Hana ML, do you think I'll get everything hana ML can do with a original technics tonearm?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
    The original arm isn't what I'd class as a bad arm but as always, you could do better.

    I'd rather have a better arm before I upgraded the cartridge as you don't and won't know for sure how good something is until you can get the best from it.

    Something like a Jelco will be a decent upgrade and is fairly simple to fit to your 1210.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > SIMaudio Moon LP5.3RS
    Digital: Orchard Audio PecanPi with JRiver
    Preamplifier: Neurochrome Differential Preamp
    Amplification: Neurochrome Modulus 686
    Speakers: Mordaunt Short Performance 880
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable

    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    The original arm isn't what I'd class as a bad arm but as always, you could do better.

    I'd rather have a better arm before I upgraded the cartridge as you don't and won't know for sure how good something is until you can get the best from it.

    Something like a Jelco will be a decent upgrade and is fairly simple to fit to your 1210.
    Thanks for your reply.
    Do you mean the Jelco 750? I've been watching the SME 3009 II improved but I don't know it's a very good improvement and it's a light mass tonearm. In the other hand the Sorane tonearm looks like a good one but it's quite a bit too much and I should wait a bit.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souldust View Post
    Thanks for your reply.
    Do you mean the Jelco 750? I've been watching the SME 3009 II improved but I don't know it's a very good improvement and it's a light mass tonearm. In the other hand the Sorane tonearm looks like a good one but it's quite a bit too much and I should wait a bit.

    Thanks
    I'd avoid the SME, I had two and neither of them made any waves here. The Jelco is a time tested performer and contains no hidden nasties. A very capable arm for an OK price.

    If you want better, look at Audiomods arms although you may have issues fitting one to your technics. You'd have to investigate that.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > SIMaudio Moon LP5.3RS
    Digital: Orchard Audio PecanPi with JRiver
    Preamplifier: Neurochrome Differential Preamp
    Amplification: Neurochrome Modulus 686
    Speakers: Mordaunt Short Performance 880
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable

    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

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    would't class the 3009 mk2 imp a bad arm either. quite the opposite although it needs a heavier counterweight and if tracking above 2gm then a extra rider too.
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    Jeff at audiomods can supply a bespoke Soundsupports armplate for the 1200 for the.audiomods arm I think it is shown on his site but I cant post links atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    would't class the 3009 mk2 imp a bad arm either. quite the opposite although it needs a heavier counterweight and if tracking above 2gm then a extra rider too.
    Can only speak from experience mate, as ou know. It can't have as many fans as it does and be total cack but it didn't work for me.

    Just seen there may be a fitment for the Audiomods. Thats where i'd go for your TT
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > SIMaudio Moon LP5.3RS
    Digital: Orchard Audio PecanPi with JRiver
    Preamplifier: Neurochrome Differential Preamp
    Amplification: Neurochrome Modulus 686
    Speakers: Mordaunt Short Performance 880
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable

    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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    I wouldn't rush off and buy a another tonearm, just try what cart you want in your existing arm and see how it sounds. For me the most obvious difference you can make to a turntable is the cart, and I mean ALOT of difference, everything else is refining things. I have a Nagoaka moving magnet cart and its fantastic value at only £250 direct from Japan, the mp 200.
    Current system. NAS Interspace, Jelco 750, /Nagaoka MP 200/Graham Slee Era V. CDP - Mission PCM 7000. Amps - Quad 909/Croft micro 25. Chario Syntar 100 Tower. QED XT40 speaker cable/Straight wire interconnects.

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    Alberto,

    Go with your gut feel on the upgrade path else you will never be happy.

    The standard arm is not bad and if you want a mc then buy that first - after a listen you may well be happy and not want to spend more.

    Buy another arm plus the fitting plate and leads and you will be paying much more than for the suggested mcís. - and you will still want to try the mc after all !

    Donít forget its the law of diminishing returns and its easy to spend a lot upgrading a deck when you could pay less for just buying a better one.

    Treat yourself to the low output Hanna and a reasonable cost phono and enjoy the sound before trying anything else.

    If you donít have a phono then Rega make a decent cost mc phono which can be bought at a good price and easily moved on if you wish to upgrade.

    Mel

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    I agree with a couple of others ring Guy at Pure Sound he has a Hana Sl loaner so he may let you try at home. His prices are quite good as well. I borrowed it and was very impressed.

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