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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovel_Knight View Post
    Looks great!

    How did you transfer new decals to the faceplate?
    Thanks for your kind words, Pavel. I used a brand new face plate and no decals.
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    The Garrard 401 (39432) Restoration Pt VII - The most boring post of all time!

    I've been busy. Here's my diary of progress so far :-

    18/6/2019
    - Motor chasis stripped, cleaned and polished.
    - All motor tension springs replaced with new, old motor dampeners refurbished.
    - All motor tension springs remounted, with all the E-clips to replace corroded e-clips.
    - All motor tension spring pins ultrasonically cleaned and polished, now corrosion free.
    - Magnet break mount cleaned and magner resurfaced.
    - The chassis mounted cable tie holder with dismantled, ultrasonically cleaned, polished and then mounted onto the chassis.

    19/6/2019
    - Cleaned wire loom.
    - Replace x2 wire ties that had perished.
    - Cleaned and degreased motor case.
    - Spray motor case matt black and then clear laquered.
    - Power lead mount on brown motor board stripped, ultrasonically cleaned and polished.
    - Spark supressor components checked and cleaned.
    - Spark supressor casing cleaned, old holding tape removed and replaced.
    - Strobe light dismantled, cleaned and reassembled.

    20/6/2019
    - Cleaned all earthing spades
    - Removed old power lead cable from power supply housing.
    - Power supply housing board cleaned.
    - Power supply housing nuts and bolts stripped out, ultrasonically cleaned, polished, and resprayed when needed.
    - Removed corrosion from top of idler brake spindle.
    - Motor bolts cleaned, nuts polished and black washers resprayed.
    - Replacement Idler wheel bushings and bearings purchased.
    - Replacement motor bushings and felt pad resorvoirs purchased.

    21/6/2019
    - Degreased all linkages and gave them a primary clean and lubrication.
    - Polished bearing case.
    - Soaked bearing spindle, new thrust pad and wool washer in Martin Bastin oil for 24 hours.
    - Replaced bearing spindle E-Clip with new one.

    22/7/2019
    - Dismantled and cleaned the idler wheel housing mechanism.
    - Removed idler wheel bushes and installed new replacements.
    - Resprayed idler wheel thrust plate.
    - Cleaned idler wheel edge and polished idler wheel spindle.
    - Started to soak new motor bushes and felts in oil for 24 hours.
    - Fresh oil in new idler wheel bushes.
    - Assembled the bearing for postage to be polished.

    23/7/2019
    - Resprayed platter break assembly.
    - Ultrasonically cleaned, and polished strobe screws.
    - Attached unit label.
    - Ultrasonically cleaned and polished spark supressor screws, resprayed washers.

    24/7/2019
    - Ordered M6 threaded rod to start to make new mounting bolts.
    - Resprayed mounting bolt e-clips
    - Ordered m2.5 hex bolts to finish motor restoration.
    - Polished mounting screws for motor frame
    - Resprayed washes to mounting screws.
    - Bearing mounted onto Garrard 401 chassis.

    25/7/2019
    - Reassembled the magnetic break together.
    - Reattached the speed selector linkages.

    26/7/2019
    - Polished and removed corrosion from magnetic break linkages.
    - Replaced springs in the break linkage.
    - Re-assembled part of the motor cage.
    - Polished corrosion away from transport screws.
    - Replaced new E-Clips into transport screws.
    - Reattached the transit clamping plate.

    No pictures today. I'm hoping to get all the linkages attached and maybe even the motor rebuilt before the end of the week. I will post some pictures towards the end of the week!

    Stay tuned....
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    OMG - I thought mine needed work! (It clearly didn't.) Bravo, Andrew!

    (PS - You might want to change the dates on the last few, unless you've got a DeLorean. )
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    Thorough or what Andy ! Impressive stuf
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    The Garrard 401 (39432) Restoration Pt VIII - Nearly finished already!!

    The 401 has been very quick in getting finished. I've included some more pictures to show the progress.

    The linkages have been bolted on except the eddy break linkage which has been dismantled and packed away (see later in the post)!


    G3.jpg


    The motor has been completely rebuilt, stripped, repainted. Every component has been polished and ultrasonically cleaned. All solder has been replaced with 10% silver content. The motor received new bushes and felt oil pads from Audiosilente in Italy. It's also received new motor springs and dampeners. The motor has had a fresh oil change.

    G2.jpg

    Photo 3 just shows the 401 as it stands with the bearing installed.

    G1.jpg


    I've decided to get this 401 hot rodded so it's going to Martin Bastin. He's going to be tweaking and fine tuning. I will also be getting a Bastin Plinth which should also decouple the motor. Martin does a number of other mods which should improve the cabling, spark supressor, the bearing and a few other bits. The 401 will also be running a Phoenix Engineering PSU and Tachometer which should be modified to decrease the number of IEC and jacks. I have no idea how long this lot is going to take but it should be pretty cool. Then the really stuff starts as I get to compare against my stock standard Garrard 301!!!




    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_UK View Post
    OMG - I thought mine needed work! (It clearly didn't.) Bravo, Andrew!

    (PS - You might want to change the dates on the last few, unless you've got a DeLorean. )
    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    Thorough or what Andy ! Impressive stuf

    Thanks guys!

    As ever stay tuned!!!!
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    Restoration is very satisfying, I should do my van sometime!
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    "I get to compare against my stock standard Garrard 301"

    More detail, less pace. One was designed for MONO and had to be constantly tweaked during the production timeline to meet the demands of STEREO transcription. The other was engineered with all that was learned from these efforts (Sadly they missed out on the aesthetic joy of the 301). The 401 was in many ways thwarted by a struggling market position and subsequent buy out by Plessey who cut back on all peripherals and cosmetics in cost saving exercises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.Grail View Post
    "I get to compare against my stock standard Garrard 301"

    More detail, less pace. One was designed for MONO and had to be constantly tweaked during the production timeline to meet the demands of STEREO transcription. The other was engineered with all that was learned from these efforts (Sadly they missed out on the aesthetic joy of the 301). The 401 was in many ways thwarted by a struggling market position and subsequent buy out by Plessey who cut back on all peripherals and cosmetics in cost saving exercises.
    Should be fun when both are sitting next to each other.
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    The Garrard 401 (39432) Restoration Pt IX - Going on holiday to Ludlow!

    This is a list of what's been done since the last update :-

    - Replaced old platter break with new felt break pad.
    - Replaced old motor dampening rubbers with new.
    - Replaced x3 isolation grommets on idler wheel platform
    - Decided to replace all three pivot bushes on linkages.
    - Removed further corrosion from the cable retention spring.
    - All solder joints in the 401 have been redone but this time with 10% silver solder from Audionote.
    - All corroded wshers replaced for new yellow zinc plated washers.
    - Motor springs have recieved new damping rubbers.

    4012.jpg4011.jpg


    This first picture shows ~66 old replaced components, altogether I've replaced 82 components in this deck, I've not included the pivot bushes for the linkages, the new fascia on the 401 nameplate and the new chrome covers for the selector switches, or the rivets in the idler wheel housing or motor. The second pictures shows the deck as it is now and I can no longer go any further it will now be driven down to Martin Bastin to get my work checked over, fine tuned and then ultimately re-plinthed in one of his plinths. I've heard that these plinths are not in the same league as the Cushworth plinths but one above the standard birch ply fare which populates eScum.
    You will see that this 401 will be graced with a full Phoenix Engineering PSU + Tachometer. Platter stability will be rock steady between +/- 0.001-2 RPM. I have a few other goodies to try out like the beefed up SPH bearing and the the SPH 2.4kg platter mat.

    There are further upgrades which could be tried for the 401 including the Audiosilente (AS) Eddy brake disc and replacement idler wheel. AS also produce replacement motor coils for the Garrard 301 but I have seen nothing for the 401 and I have no idea what improvements (if any) they would have over older motor coils. There are several thrust-pad upgrades. The Kokomo which is now on Mk 3, some claim it's ok, some claim it ruins the bearing. Some thrust pad "upgrades" rip-off Martin Bastin's idea's although they don't fully implement his full design. The restoration has been one of love and not financial gain. I could have bought better for the money I've invested but it's mine now and will remain in the collection. I will never sell.

    Don't expect any upgrades now for a while as the deck is going on holiday and I'm not sure how long it's goiung to be away. But as ever, stay tuned..
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    Another great update Andrew, really does look like a labour of love!

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