The end of May.

[Joe]

Well, I never saw her as a joke figure - quite the opposite. Have you ever sat and listened to her talk no-nonsense politics, or about anything else she's passionate about, in terms of 'righting the world's wrongs'? .

As someone once said 'For every complex problem, there's an answer that's simple, straightforward, and wrong'. It've very easy to pontificate in a TV studio about 'what needs to be done', but most political problems are inherently complicated, and require a more measured approach than Widdecombe's blunderbuss. Whenever I've read her opinions about anything I've disagreed with them. There's no merit in being 'passionate' if you're on the wrong side of the debate.

[Joe]

Come on Marco on balance Scotland and Wales must be on the right side of the coin and I m sure know where there breads buttered !. As regards Boris well Macca thinks he s as sharp as a tack and
thinking of his utterances on here in the past that boy seems to know his onions

Boris is a proven serial liar, both in his personal life and as a politician. The Telegraph had to print an apology for one of his columns which contained a blatant untruth, saying in effect that you couldn't expect truth from Boris. I think he pretends to be a buffoon, but is actually not all that bright underneath that oafish persona. Gove managed to skewer him in the last Tory leadership contest, and Gove is hardly the sharpest knife in the box.

However, if he goes forward as one of the two candidates selected by Tory MPs, he's bound to become Tory leader and PM. We'll see then if he's any better at squaring the Brexit circle than May was.

[Macca]

As someone once said 'For every complex problem, there's an answer that's simple, straightforward, and wrong'. It've very easy to pontificate in a TV studio about 'what needs to be done', but most political problems are inherently complicated, and require a more measured approach.

Doesn't matter how much you say it, people will still believe that some wunderkind will come along to lead them to the promised land. There's no point in these discussions, they never get beyond the 6th form common room level.

[Joe]

Has a critically acclaimed book on Churchill which hardly makes him thick. Not something the keyboard warrior s on this or any other forum could do

David Cameron was our most highly qualified PM since Harold Wilson. Didn't stop him making some very stupid decisions, one of which was to trust Boris Johnson.

[Marco]

As someone once said 'For every complex problem, there's an answer that's simple, straightforward, and wrong'. It've very easy to pontificate in a TV studio about 'what needs to be done', but most political problems are inherently complicated, and require a more measured approach than Widdecombe's blunderbuss. Whenever I've read her opinions about anything I've disagreed with them. There's no merit in being 'passionate' if you're on the wrong side of the debate.

Well, that's fine, but it's only your opinion, and one I'd vehemently disagree with.

Almost every PM in existence has beforehand 'pontificated in a TV studio about what needs to be done', and once in office, such as the current lot, most have made a pig's ear of 'doing what needs to be done', so why change the habits of a lifetime?

I'd contend therefore, that there's no evidence that suggests Widdecombe would make any more of an arse of it than anyone else has so far!

Marco.

[struth]

Those with wealth or power will do what’s in their best interest to protect that wealth or power, even if it’s in no one else’s interest at all. So what chance does the little man have when he/she lives from payday to payday? SFA

[Marco]

Those with wealth or power will do what’s in their best interest to protect that wealth or power, even if it’s in no one else’s interest at all.

Exactly! And which is why I abhor people such as BJ and Cameron, and others of their chinless ilk, because ultimately *that* is all they're interested in! It's all about what's best for 'the establishment' and lining their own pockets.

So unless anyone here confesses to being a multi-millionaire, titled, or a member of the upper-classes, we're all "little men' - and therefore putting these odious creatures into positions of power is akin to turkeys voting for Christmas!

The fact is, we ['the northerners'] care not a jot about London, as much as BJ cares not a jot about Glasgow, or Liverpool, or Newcastle, etc.....and there exists as big a north/south divide now, as there ever was, which is why the notion of a 'union' between all the countries in the UK ['stronger together' slogans and all that pish] is a joke, as in reality there is no such 'union' because ultimately everyone is out for themselves!!

Marco.

[tapid]

If it is Boris how long before he trips over Larry the cat

[The Black Adder]

I've just seen on twitter that Downing Street have just put an order in for some soft toys and some duplo brexit building blocks...

Looks like Boris is the next PM then.


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[Macca]

If it is Boris how long before he trips over Larry the cat

Larry is a class act.