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    another little tweak worth doing is sticking these under your turntables feet or between layers of wood. i noticed an improvement in decay straight away.


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    Nice spot Jamie....these will work a treat.....they do cork sandwiched between rubber too....taking up to 50 psi....have you tried them out Jamie??.....ha..Just re-read your post...and of course you have tried them....

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    I like the price !
    I see others as well. Will punt around Amazon UK.
    Wow. All sorts. Food for thought

    Are you using 3 or 4 under the turntable ?
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    i got mine from the amazon.com,they arrived in no time at all.
    i use 4,1 under each foot and another 4 between 2 shelves.

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    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karma67 View Post
    i got mine from the amazon.com,they arrived in no time at all.
    i use 4,1 under each foot and another 4 between 2 shelves.

    There is a suggestion that using pads like this directly under the TT can kill dynamics.

    Have you noticed anything like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    There is a suggestion that using pads like this directly under the TT can kill dynamics.

    Have you noticed anything like that?
    not in the slightest mate but as macca says they are not squishy,they dont sag until the weight of the sony plinth and you know how heavy that is.
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    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

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    I am keen to begin with trialing different materials for isolation feet.
    I have access to this material in 300mm x 300mm pads, which I was considering to use under the Monoblock Amps. It would potentially have ended up in the TT Isolation Investigations as well.
    I see it is used as Sub Plinth Foot and Sub Foot Support in your set up.
    How did using this and increasing the positions of use in the support set up, show up as a improvement in your the system.
    I recently took my SP10 to a friends to trial out a few different MC's, after a few tracks we tried out different footers, initially by placing the needle on a Non Spinning LP, and having a light knock around the Stand and Sub Plinths and then the TT Plinth.
    After swapping out a few different materials and then combining materials, between the TT and the Sub Plinth, a combination of a thin foam as a base, a 10mm Blackwood Billet , another thin foam, a 10mm Blackwood Billet and a Soundcare foot making contact with the TT Plinth, produced a foot that was largely unaffected by the Light Knuckle Knocks on the Stands and Plinths, when compared to some of the earlier ones.
    On the first replay, following the last combination of materials foot being put into use, there was a immediate audible difference, Bass was much more clean,taught and cut off very precisely, I am sure there were other benefits offered as well, but maybe not so obvious.
    I am curious to learn if a certain type of tweak is beneficial to all, or whether they are room and stand dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnG View Post
    I am keen to begin with trialing different materials for isolation feet.
    I have access to this material in 300mm x 300mm pads, which I was considering to use under the Monoblock Amps. It would potentially have ended up in the TT Isolation Investigations as well.
    I see it is used as Sub Plinth Foot and Sub Foot Support in your set up.
    How did using this and increasing the positions of use in the support set up, show up as a improvement in your the system.
    I recently took my SP10 to a friends to trial out a few different MC's, after a few tracks we tried out different footers, initially by placing the needle on a Non Spinning LP, and having a light knock around the Stand and Sub Plinths and then the TT Plinth.
    After swapping out a few different materials and then combining materials, between the TT and the Sub Plinth, a combination of a thin foam as a base, a 10mm Blackwood Billet , another thin foam, a 10mm Blackwood Billet and a Soundcare foot making contact with the TT Plinth, produced a foot that was largely unaffected by the Light Knuckle Knocks on the Stands and Plinths, when compared to some of the earlier ones.
    On the first replay, following the last combination of materials foot being put into use, there was a immediate audible difference, Bass was much more clean,taught and cut off very precisely, I am sure there were other benefits offered as well, but maybe not so obvious.
    I am curious to learn if a certain type of tweak is beneficial to all, or whether they are room and stand dependent.
    well to be honest i made no logical decision to go for these blocks,i read somewhere that a guy had tried them under his turntable and a few others commented they'd done the same with positive results.
    so i thought id try them at the price ,cheap enough to give them a go.
    i listen to a lot of john williams and julian bream (acoustic guitar) and to me the blocks just add a touch more decay to the strings,likewise with harmonics,so for me they are staying put.

    my train of thought is the less micro vibration or resonance that gets through to hinder or mask what the stylus is picking up the better,i should really get a wall mounted shelf but for the moment these blocks are a step forward.
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    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by karma67 View Post

    my train of thought is the less micro vibration or resonance that gets through to hinder or mask what the stylus is picking up the betterd.
    Yep a stylus is massively sensitive to all that stuff which is why doing pretty much anything to turntable setup will noticeably change the sound albeit not always for the better. I wouldn't bother with the hassle and expense of fitting a wall shelf though unless you have a suspended floor as walls still transmit vibrations.


    I still reckon a sand tray has to be the ultimate in isolation. If you think about it, to transmit vibration through sand every single grain has to be set in motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Yep a stylus is massively sensitive to all that stuff which is why doing pretty much anything to turntable setup will noticeably change the sound albeit not always for the better. I wouldn't bother with the hassle and expense of fitting a wall shelf though unless you have a suspended floor as walls still transmit vibrations.


    I still reckon a sand tray has to be the ultimate in isolation. If you think about it, to transmit vibration through sand every single grain has to be set in motion.
    Well I think Martin you may be onto a very good solution there, I think I will be going to buy some kiln dried sand and the right size inner tube to fill with it to go under a platform.
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